TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted Wednesday at 05:44 Posted Wednesday at 05:44 6 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: The whole stand is the same price for a Category A match - https://www.itfc.co.uk/tickets/matchticketprices But the majority of home fans in there are season ticket holders/members so won't be paying anything like the price they're ripping off Saints fans for. SFC need to get a bit more creative with away fans pricing, if we get ripped off then they have to reciprocate. Make the equivalent KIngsland (North) blocks £45-50 for general admission the reverse fixture but do a cut-price offer for that game for members, cheapest adult tickets in the stadium. Then we're just charging them the same as what we would be charging our non-members but the seats would likely quickly get snapped up when they go on sale to members. I would imagine we'll have a larger number of U23s (£23/£24) and U19s (£13/£14) at Portman Road.
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 07:30 Posted Wednesday at 07:30 1 hour ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: But the majority of home fans in there are season ticket holders/members so won't be paying anything like the price they're ripping off Saints fans for. SFC need to get a bit more creative with away fans pricing, if we get ripped off then they have to reciprocate. Make the equivalent KIngsland (North) blocks £45-50 for general admission the reverse fixture but do a cut-price offer for that game for members, cheapest adult tickets in the stadium. Then we're just charging them the same as what we would be charging our non-members but the seats would likely quickly get snapped up when they go on sale to members. I would imagine we'll have a larger number of U23s (£23/£24) and U19s (£13/£14) at Portman Road. I'm not a fan of these calls for tit for tat pricing, at the end of the day it's just the loyal match going fan who suffers, fans groups uniting like Spirit of Shankly did with others in campaign to cap Premier league away pricing had much more impact and benefited all of us. (That campaign sprang from Cat A teams getting stung like Arsenal charging £63 for Cat A and £26 for Cat C) About time championship followed suit with £30 cap. Also don't understand why Premier League enforces away allocation to be 3000 or 10% if smaller, but Championship just has 2000 or 10% if smaller, would certainly help us to receive some bigger allocations 5
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted Wednesday at 15:54 Posted Wednesday at 15:54 8 hours ago, Football Special said: I'm not a fan of these calls for tit for tat pricing, at the end of the day it's just the loyal match going fan who suffers, fans groups uniting like Spirit of Shankly did with others in campaign to cap Premier league away pricing had much more impact and benefited all of us. (That campaign sprang from Cat A teams getting stung like Arsenal charging £63 for Cat A and £26 for Cat C) About time championship followed suit with £30 cap. Also don't understand why Premier League enforces away allocation to be 3000 or 10% if smaller, but Championship just has 2000 or 10% if smaller, would certainly help us to receive some bigger allocations I agree with what you're saying, but how do you bite back when clubs are blatantly taking the piss? Plenty of Ipswich fans have had a pop at their club over those prices, it's ridiculous, particularly at this level. I believe there is dialogue on capping away ticket prices outside of the PL but it never happened in time for this season, probably next year. The reluctance for clubs to get involved just proves their greed and total disregard for even their own match-going fans with the expense of following that team around country. I just can't really understand why effort wasn't made before to arrange reciprocal pricing/allocation with other clubs. We got rinsed a few times recently in the Championship.
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 16:36 Posted Wednesday at 16:36 If I'm reading that correctly a Pompey fan could buy a membership now along with the cheapest ticket for Stoke at home and go straight to front of the queue for derby day tickets?
Pamplemousse Posted Wednesday at 16:37 Posted Wednesday at 16:37 1 minute ago, Football Special said: If I'm reading that correctly a Pompey fan could buy a membership now along with the cheapest ticket for Stoke at home and go straight to front of the queue for derby day tickets? Only if they had also bought a ticket from 2020 onwards for one of our games
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 16:37 Posted Wednesday at 16:37 1 minute ago, Football Special said: If I'm reading that correctly a Pompey fan could buy a membership now along with the cheapest ticket for Stoke at home and go straight to front of the queue for derby day tickets? Actually ignore me, would also need a purchase from previous season as well
Paul Chuckle Posted Wednesday at 16:38 Posted Wednesday at 16:38 1 minute ago, Football Special said: If I'm reading that correctly a Pompey fan could buy a membership now along with the cheapest ticket for Stoke at home and go straight to front of the queue for derby day tickets? You need a previous purchase history to go alongside that, if I've read it correctly. 1. Membership 2. Previous purchase history 3. Purchase another ticket for this season. That's what I think they're saying you need all of to qualify
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 16:40 Posted Wednesday at 16:40 1 minute ago, Paul Chuckle said: You need a previous purchase history to go alongside that, if I've read it correctly. 1. Membership 2. Previous purchase history 3. Purchase another ticket for this season. That's what I think they're saying you need all of to qualify Agreed, that seems reasonable
Pamplemousse Posted Wednesday at 16:42 Posted Wednesday at 16:42 Anyone who sells their ticket to one of them lot should face a lifetime ban.
RedArmy Posted Wednesday at 16:43 Posted Wednesday at 16:43 2 minutes ago, Paul Chuckle said: 2. Previous purchase history If only it was that simple, as apparently having a season ticket for 17 years and following your team around Europe doesn’t count any more because they decided to change ticketing systems and start fresh 5 years ago. 1
franniesTache Posted Wednesday at 17:03 Posted Wednesday at 17:03 I assume this means it's a bubble then? "For this match, all Southampton supporters will need to enter via Britannia Road, Marine Parade or the Northam footbridge. Melbourne Street will be out of bounds for home supporters and will be for away supporters only. This will be the only way for away supporters to enter the stadium footprint" To be fair i don't see how it won't be with the new stadium layout, because an escort from the station would mean they’re going to have to escort them either via the parks and through st Mary’s or via the parks and through golden grove. Not sure either of those is going to work for policing.
EssEffCee Posted Wednesday at 17:04 Posted Wednesday at 17:04 I really hate to be one of those people but please don't buy in blocks 20/21/29 if you're not willing to stand and sing. We really can't have people sat in silence next to the away end for this fixture. 7
EssEffCee Posted Wednesday at 17:09 Posted Wednesday at 17:09 2 minutes ago, franniesTache said: I assume this means it's a bubble then? "For this match, all Southampton supporters will need to enter via Britannia Road, Marine Parade or the Northam footbridge. Melbourne Street will be out of bounds for home supporters and will be for away supporters only. This will be the only way for away supporters to enter the stadium footprint" To be fair i don't see how it won't be with the new stadium layout, because an escort from the station would mean they’re going to have to escort them either via the parks and through st Mary’s or via the parks and through golden grove. Not sure either of those is going to work for policing. Surprised they haven't confirmed the bubble but I'm assuming it is. What they've written there could apply if not as well though. Don't think we used to be able to go Brittania Road pre bubble? Re the escort thing I've said ever since the ground changes were first put out there that there doesn't seem any decent escort route for high risk games. Disaster waiting to happen I reckon.
LGTL Posted Wednesday at 17:12 Posted Wednesday at 17:12 We’ll know soon enough I guess when they confirm their ticket details. 99% nailed on to be a bubble though, which will probably make Fratton one of the worst aways this season. 2
franniesTache Posted Wednesday at 17:14 Posted Wednesday at 17:14 1 minute ago, EssEffCee said: Surprised they haven't confirmed the bubble but I'm assuming it is. What they've written there could apply if not as well though. Don't think we used to be able to go Brittania Road pre bubble? Re the escort thing I've said ever since the ground changes were first put out there that there doesn't seem any decent escort route for high risk games. Disaster waiting to happen I reckon. "Best" bet is they escort them is a 2mile walk through two large exposed parks with no CCTV that they can't police, having to stop traffic on the ring road, then pinch points in st mary's by central hall and the rail crossing. They'd be very fucking exposed on that walk and if people wanted to i doubt there's a hell of a lot the police could do to stop things from happening. The other option they have is straight down from the station, over the bridge and down the kingsland side of St Mary's, but again unless you disrupt everyone in the kingsland stand there's no way of doing that, even with the new banter fence in place. Which makes me think it has to be a bubble
SouSaint Posted Wednesday at 17:22 Posted Wednesday at 17:22 I'm pretty sure I saw a few weeks back that there are no trains to Soton Central that weekend due to rail works.
LGTL Posted Wednesday at 17:24 Posted Wednesday at 17:24 There’s no trains into Southampton Central that day anyway.
bpsaint Posted Wednesday at 17:31 Posted Wednesday at 17:31 (edited) 21 minutes ago, EssEffCee said: Surprised they haven't confirmed the bubble but I'm assuming it is. What they've written there could apply if not as well though. Don't think we used to be able to go Brittania Road pre bubble? Re the escort thing I've said ever since the ground changes were first put out there that there doesn't seem any decent escort route for high risk games. Disaster waiting to happen I reckon. Personally always wondered why Bitterne or Woolston stations weren’t used for the police escorts when the skunts come to town. Always struck me as having less opportunity for flashpoints along the way. Edited Wednesday at 17:31 by bpsaint
EssEffCee Posted Wednesday at 17:47 Posted Wednesday at 17:47 30 minutes ago, franniesTache said: "Best" bet is they escort them is a 2mile walk through two large exposed parks with no CCTV that they can't police, having to stop traffic on the ring road, then pinch points in st mary's by central hall and the rail crossing. They'd be very fucking exposed on that walk and if people wanted to i doubt there's a hell of a lot the police could do to stop things from happening. The other option they have is straight down from the station, over the bridge and down the kingsland side of St Mary's, but again unless you disrupt everyone in the kingsland stand there's no way of doing that, even with the new banter fence in place. Which makes me think it has to be a bubble I always thought if they wanted to avoid the parks they might do down to six dials and then up Kingsway but that's both a really long walk and also restricts routes for home fans massively. I just can't see how they'd want to take an escort through the parks as it'd be so hard to police and there'd be loads of non football people there too.l Obviously doesn't seem to be an issue for this game due to the bubble but it'll be an issue at some point this season
EssEffCee Posted Wednesday at 17:49 Posted Wednesday at 17:49 25 minutes ago, LGTL said: There’s no trains into Southampton Central that day anyway. Make 'em walk from Fratton.
EssEffCee Posted Wednesday at 17:51 Posted Wednesday at 17:51 18 minutes ago, bpsaint said: Personally always wondered why Bitterne or Woolston stations weren’t used for the police escorts when the skunts come to town. Always struck me as having less opportunity for flashpoints along the way. Woolston would involve closing the itchen bridge which I assume they wouldn't want to do. Bitterne would make more sense but there's not much area there to hold them while they're waiting for more trains and it's right next to a pub.
Matthew Le God Posted Wednesday at 17:51 Posted Wednesday at 17:51 26 minutes ago, LGTL said: There’s no trains into Southampton Central that day anyway. Just now, EssEffCee said: Make 'em walk from Fratton. And remove the road signs like they did in WW2
spyinthesky Posted Wednesday at 18:12 Posted Wednesday at 18:12 20 minutes ago, EssEffCee said: Woolston would involve closing the itchen bridge which I assume they wouldn't want to do. Bitterne would make more sense but there's not much area there to hold them while they're waiting for more trains and it's right next to a pub. There was an issue a few years back on derby day, when some Pompey supporters got off a train at St Denys and caused problems walking to the ground from there
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 18:26 Posted Wednesday at 18:26 1 hour ago, EssEffCee said: I really hate to be one of those people but please don't buy in blocks 20/21/29 if you're not willing to stand and sing. We really can't have people sat in silence next to the away end for this fixture. Amen , pints for breakfast, WBA play off atmosphere required 1
Football Special Posted Wednesday at 18:28 Posted Wednesday at 18:28 15 minutes ago, spyinthesky said: There was an issue a few years back on derby day, when some Pompey supporters got off a train at St Denys and caused problems walking to the ground from there Not sure they ever did, was rumoured in 2010 they were going to but it didn't happen , funny old video from that day
RedArmy Posted Wednesday at 18:58 Posted Wednesday at 18:58 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Football Special said: Not sure they ever did, was rumoured in 2010 they were going to but it didn't happen , funny old video from that day A few got off in Woolston and were giving it some going over the bridge before the league cup game in 2003. They must have got lost because the rest of their lads were practicing the 400m sprint down St Mary’s street. Edited Wednesday at 19:00 by RedArmy
EssEffCee Posted Wednesday at 19:52 Posted Wednesday at 19:52 1 hour ago, Football Special said: Amen , pints for breakfast, WBA play off atmosphere required Dare I even say it's worth another team bus welcome? It's not really my thing (and I was one of those who mocked the idea before the game) but I have to admit it looked great from the videos I saw and without doubt set the tone for the match. 1
warsash saint Posted Wednesday at 21:57 Posted Wednesday at 21:57 To confirm both games will be a bubble - spoke to Policeman a few weeks back
Pamplemousse Posted Wednesday at 22:05 Posted Wednesday at 22:05 At least with a bubble, there's absolutely no reason why the pubs can't open before the game.
die Mannyschaft Posted Thursday at 16:41 Posted Thursday at 16:41 18 hours ago, warsash saint said: To confirm both games will be a bubble - spoke to Policeman a few weeks back Went on the bubble last time. It was a bus. The top windscreen got smashed, from the inside by Saints fans. Apart from about 15 pompey by a put and on route didn't see any of the blue few
die Mannyschaft Posted Thursday at 16:46 Posted Thursday at 16:46 18 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: At least with a bubble, there's absolutely no reason why the pubs can't open before the game. I think most near ground and Yates will be closed. If you have to get a coach ticket when buying a match ticket as Saints system had that doesn't stop non ticket holders going by train or car. It's easy to police at Fratton but southampton has too many routes in and parking. They get on at Eastleigh also.
Pamplemousse Posted Thursday at 16:57 Posted Thursday at 16:57 10 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said: I think most near ground and Yates will be closed. If you have to get a coach ticket when buying a match ticket as Saints system had that doesn't stop non ticket holders going by train or car. It's easy to police at Fratton but southampton has too many routes in and parking. They get on at Eastleigh also. No trains to Southampton that weekend.
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted Thursday at 17:42 Posted Thursday at 17:42 Only around 200 tickets left for Wrexham, nearly all of them in Block 20 next to the away fans. Should sell out tomorrow and see the ticket exchange open.
Football Special Posted Thursday at 18:40 Posted Thursday at 18:40 55 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: Only around 200 tickets left for Wrexham, nearly all of them in Block 20 next to the away fans. Should sell out tomorrow and see the ticket exchange open. I think the Skates announcement yesterday resulted in quite a few buying to ensure they qualify for tickets. Strangely Wrexham still haven't put the away allocation on sale which is very late, was checking on that to see how many we give them and at what price. Home end will definitely be sold out very soon
Mattio Posted Friday at 08:14 Posted Friday at 08:14 13 hours ago, Football Special said: I think the Skates announcement yesterday resulted in quite a few buying to ensure they qualify for tickets. Strangely Wrexham still haven't put the away allocation on sale which is very late, was checking on that to see how many we give them and at what price. Home end will definitely be sold out very soon Wrexham will surely sell out? They'll be expecting a giant killing.
bpsaint Posted Friday at 09:56 Posted Friday at 09:56 (edited) 16 hours ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: Only around 200 tickets left for Wrexham, nearly all of them in Block 20 next to the away fans. Should sell out tomorrow and see the ticket exchange open. Do they only open the exchange once tickets sell out normally? I’m waiting on a ticket in the Northam to become available. Edited Friday at 09:57 by bpsaint
goodymatt Posted Friday at 10:05 Posted Friday at 10:05 8 minutes ago, bpsaint said: Do they only open the exchange once tickets sell out normally? I’m waiting on a ticket in the Northam to become available. Yes, that’s correct. I had to settle for the Kingsland near the away fans but would also have preferred a Northam ticket. Assume we can’t transfer seats once they open up the exchange?
Pamplemousse Posted Friday at 10:23 Posted Friday at 10:23 (edited) 15 hours ago, Football Special said: I think the Skates announcement yesterday resulted in quite a few buying to ensure they qualify for tickets. Strangely Wrexham still haven't put the away allocation on sale which is very late, was checking on that to see how many we give them and at what price. Home end will definitely be sold out very soon Their fans aren't happy at all https://www.redpassion.co.uk/threads/southampton-away.126095/page-5 Edited Friday at 10:24 by Pamplemousse
Football Special Posted Friday at 13:26 Posted Friday at 13:26 5 hours ago, Mattio said: Wrexham will surely sell out? They'll be expecting a giant killing. Lol we don't count as a giant killing 🤣 but agree they'll very much fancy a win against us I'm sure , it's a tough old journey though for a Saturday 12.30 game on tv
for_heaven's_Saint Posted Friday at 13:33 Posted Friday at 13:33 A few of them talking about getting tickets in the home end. I wonder how many we are planning to give away teams this year? Hope for popular games (eg Pompey) we only give the minimum 2000.
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted Friday at 13:59 Posted Friday at 13:59 18 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: A few of them talking about getting tickets in the home end. They better get a move on then as there's only a few handfuls left...and hope they've all got a previous purchasing history with SFC to buy one. As for away allocations, I can't see the skates getting any more than 2k as they'll need to be extra segregation netting either side along with the practicalities of bussing in any more than that in the bubble. We'll likely be restricted to 1,500-1,800 down there. Police probably have the final say. Everyone else will have to be offered the 3k (if required) as it looks like the away corner at St Mary's can't be segregated, it's that or write off what an extra thousand seats in revenue brings.
EssEffCee Posted Friday at 14:54 Posted Friday at 14:54 54 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: They better get a move on then as there's only a few handfuls left...and hope they've all got a previous purchasing history with SFC to buy one. As for away allocations, I can't see the skates getting any more than 2k as they'll need to be extra segregation netting either side along with the practicalities of bussing in any more than that in the bubble. We'll likely be restricted to 1,500-1,800 down there. Police probably have the final say. Everyone else will have to be offered the 3k (if required) as it looks like the away corner at St Mary's can't be segregated, it's that or write off what an extra thousand seats in revenue brings. Is previous purchase history required for this? Don't recall the website stating that like they normally do.
Pamplemousse Posted Friday at 15:06 Posted Friday at 15:06 I couldn't think of anything worse than sitting in the home end in a derby game surrounding by opposing fans whilst getting pumped, which is likely what will happen. Good luck to any Skates who do manage to sneak in.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted Friday at 15:09 Posted Friday at 15:09 1 hour ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: They better get a move on then as there's only a few handfuls left...and hope they've all got a previous purchasing history with SFC to buy one. As for away allocations, I can't see the skates getting any more than 2k as they'll need to be extra segregation netting either side along with the practicalities of bussing in any more than that in the bubble. We'll likely be restricted to 1,500-1,800 down there. Police probably have the final say. Everyone else will have to be offered the 3k (if required) as it looks like the away corner at St Mary's can't be segregated, it's that or write off what an extra thousand seats in revenue brings. Is that right that it can’t be segregated? Seems very short sighted of the club if so, considering just 2 seasons ago we started to only give away teams 2000 and sold the rest to home fans.
Football Special Posted Friday at 15:42 Posted Friday at 15:42 45 minutes ago, EssEffCee said: Is previous purchase history required for this? Don't recall the website stating that like they normally do. For Wrexham game no history it's been on open general sale for a few days so any Tom, Dick or Hollywood actor can just make an account and buy. 1
Football Special Posted Friday at 15:45 Posted Friday at 15:45 33 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Is that right that it can’t be segregated? Seems very short sighted of the club if so, considering just 2 seasons ago we started to only give away teams 2000 and sold the rest to home fans. I've not seen that confirmed by the club, definitely a question to be asked at the next fans forum! Guess we thought we'd be back in the Premier League and have no need to move it. Some teams like Norwich move segregation easily so can offer 800, 1500, 2200 depending on who the visiting team is and sell rest to their own fans, that makes much more sense as there will be plenty of teams who will get nowhere near bringing 3k to us this season
IFHP Posted Friday at 15:55 Posted Friday at 15:55 44 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Is that right that it can’t be segregated? Seems very short sighted of the club if so, considering just 2 seasons ago we started to only give away teams 2000 and sold the rest to home fans. Everyone is guessing it Cant be moved but for FA Cup games there’s got to be a plan to offer teams 4000 odd so must be some flexibility somewhere . 1
EssEffCee Posted Friday at 15:57 Posted Friday at 15:57 2 minutes ago, IFHP said: Everyone is guessing it Cant be moved but for FA Cup games there’s got to be a plan to offer teams 4000 odd so must be some flexibility somewhere . Extending it outwards into the Kingsland seems on the face of it a lot simpler than making it smaller given the layout.
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