ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Can i be the first to say COYR as the wave of optimism sweeps through the club,the fans and hopefully the players now that the double failures namely Lowe and Wilde are gone. Here`s hoping for a good win today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Probably the most nervous i have felt about a game since Sheff Utd last season. Come on Saints - this is the sort of game we normally f*ck up but please not today. Give us a win & performance we can all be proud of & that will bring the crowds back for the last 2 home games. COYR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Can i be the first to say COYR as the wave of optimism sweeps through the club,the fans and hopefully the players now that the double failures namely Lowe and Wilde are gone. Here`s hoping for a good win today... think it is vital or the tide of emotion may turn , the results on the pitch ultimately determine financial success off it a thing that previous directors constantly forgot as they tried to re write the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Even though this is going to be a bumpy ride, I think we could come out of this much stronger. Rupert has gone, supporters are now united on saving Saints & even if we end up getting relegated, the future may be much brighter than we imagined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Even though this is going to be a bumpy ride, I think we could come out of this much stronger. Rupert has gone, supporters are now united on saving Saints & even if we end up getting relegated, the future may be much brighter than we imagined Spot on. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Today at SMS is going to be awesome... lets hope for a roar when Saga nets the first goal like that Norwich game afew years ago... COYRs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Even though this is going to be a bumpy ride, I think we could come out of this much stronger. Rupert has gone, supporters are now united on saving Saints & even if we end up getting relegated, the future may be much brighter than we imagined If we end up getting relegated what percentage of today's crowd will loyally turn up next season when the dust on the 'wave of optimisim' has settled? 50% at best I would imagine even without the Lowe factor. The Football League will meet on Tuesday and unfortunately I think they will issue us with a points deduction and effectively resign us to League 1 unless we can pull off a miracle. We are obviously and cleverly exploiting a loop hole in the league rules regard holding companies that was designed to protect clubs owned by a holding company with other companies under its umbrella. If a club was well run and profitable but one of the other companies under its holding company went bust thereby putting the group into administration, the league in this instance would not want to impose a penalty for reasons of fairness. Clearly this is not the case in our instance and if the Football league are to hold off a sudden surge in clubs reporting to new holding companies designed solely to protect them from a points deduction, especially in these times, then I think Tuesday the League will close their loophole and we will be made an example of their new rules. It' s pity the euphoria and wave of optimism didn't carry on from the Sheff Utd game last season. Barclays pulled the plug because although we delivered in all their other demands we didn't deliver in the one area the fans could have and should have contributed - revenue. As a result, I only hope this 'wave of optimisim' isn't the bow wave of a silent and slightly more menacing tsunami that will destroy the club as we have known it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 [/size][/size][/b] If we end up getting relegated what percentage of today's crowd will loyally turn up next season when the dust on the 'wave of optimisim' has settled? 50% at best I would imagine even without the Lowe factor. The Football League will meet on Tuesday and unfortunately I think they will issue us with a points deduction and effectively resign us to League 1 unless we can pull off a miracle. We are obviously and cleverly exploiting a loop hole in the league rules regard holding companies that was designed to protect clubs owned by a holding company with other companies under its umbrella. If a club was well run and profitable but one of the other companies under its holding company went bust thereby putting the group into administration, the league in this instance would not want to impose a penalty for reasons of fairness. Clearly this is not the case in our instance and if the Football league are to hold off a sudden surge in clubs reporting to new holding companies designed solely to protect them from a points deduction, especially in these times, then I think Tuesday the League will close their loophole and we will be made an example of their new rules. It' s pity the euphoria and wave of optimism didn't carry on from the Sheff Utd game last season. Barclays pulled the plug because although we delivered in all their other demands we didn't deliver in the one area the fans could have and should have contributed - revenue. As a result, I only hope this 'wave of optimisim' isn't the bow wave of a silent and slightly more menacing tsunami that will destroy the club as we have known it. 19... time to lay low for a while, while the rest of us enjoy the spirit of Southampton again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Even though this is going to be a bumpy ride, I think we could come out of this much stronger. Rupert has gone, supporters are now united on saving Saints & even if we end up getting relegated, the future may be much brighter than we imagined But let's ensure we end out of the relegation zone so that if any points are deducted they will be this season, not next. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 19... time to lay low for a while, while the rest of us enjoy the spirit of Southampton again. Everyone is entitled to their opinion Robbie, and personally I find it quite sad that we have managed to pack the stadium for today's 'crucial game'. Too little to late from our fans I'm afraid and the CLUB (not any individual or group) deserved better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 [/size][/size][/b] If we end up getting relegated what percentage of today's crowd will loyally turn up next season when the dust on the 'wave of optimisim' has settled? 50% at best I would imagine even without the Lowe factor. The Football League will meet on Tuesday and unfortunately I think they will issue us with a points deduction and effectively resign us to League 1 unless we can pull off a miracle. We are obviously and cleverly exploiting a loop hole in the league rules regard holding companies that was designed to protect clubs owned by a holding company with other companies under its umbrella. If a club was well run and profitable but one of the other companies under its holding company went bust thereby putting the group into administration, the league in this instance would not want to impose a penalty for reasons of fairness. Clearly this is not the case in our instance and if the Football league are to hold off a sudden surge in clubs reporting to new holding companies designed solely to protect them from a points deduction, especially in these times, then I think Tuesday the League will close their loophole and we will be made an example of their new rules. It' s pity the euphoria and wave of optimism didn't carry on from the Sheff Utd game last season. Barclays pulled the plug because although we delivered in all their other demands we didn't deliver in the one area the fans could have and should have contributed - revenue. As a result, I only hope this 'wave of optimisim' isn't the bow wave of a silent and slightly more menacing tsunami that will destroy the club as we have known it.If the Football League close the alleged loophole it will not affect us as it is not likely to be retrospective. However like you I expect the points deduction. The failure was not only crowd revenue, it was player sales (not achieved but not for the want of trying) and investment (again from what I know not for the want of trying) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 (edited) Everyone is entitled to their opinion Robbie, and personally I find it quite sad that we have managed to pack the stadium for today's 'crucial game'. Too little to late from our fans I'm afraid and the CLUB (not any individual or group) deserved better. I'm sorry - you're quite right. Without debate it would be a dull messageboard. But, do you now understand exactly how divisive Lowe's association has been? Mark Wotte is about to get a lesson today... The 'Real fans' are returning. We're not in this position because of the fans, why should 30000 watch Lowe kill the club through stupidity and appalling Club policy of marginalising our experience players (whilst paying their wages anyway!) and playing kids with Dutch propaganda... Well something just happened that made the real fans come back to watch a stripped team and a Dutchman. So, I wonder who was to blame? Come and watch the game 19... if you can get a ticket Edited 4 April, 2009 by SaintRobbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 It' s pity the euphoria and wave of optimism didn't carry on from the Sheff Utd game last season. It is indeed a pity (I'd go for a rather stronger word in there though) that the euphoria and wave of optimism didn't carry on from the Sheff Utd game, but as we all know, a new Board came in and took us down another route entirely. I also wonder what Mark Wotte will make of today's gate and atmosphere???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I'm sorry - you're quite right. Without debate it would be a dull messageboard. But, do you now understand exactly how divisive Lowe's association has been? Mark Wotte is about to get a lesson today... The 'Real fans' are returning. We're not in this position because of the fans, why should 30000 watch Lowe kill the club through stupidity and appalling Club policy of marginalising our experience players (whilst paying their wages anyway!) and playing kids with Dutch propaganda... Well something just happened that made the real fans come back to watch a stripped team and a Dutchman. So, I wonder who was to blame? Come and watch the game 19... if you can get a ticket Robbie, I'll be there, I always am as I have a ST as you well know. The crux of the issue seems to be what constitutes a 'real fan' as oppose to a real supporter. I was well aware of 'The Lowe Factor' only a fool wouldn't be but equally only a fool decides that the best action to take would be to stay away and help push the club over the cliff edge. That's the difference between a real fan and a real supporter the latter is at the edge trying to help shore it up and stop the shove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Strange times,never did i think i and others would feel so optimistic about our future. When you consider we are in a dire position on all fronts,in the bottom three,strong possibility of a points deduction and even extinction. I am so overjoyed that Lowe/Wilde have gone,i love the new found, if somewhat, blind optimism,but let it continue please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Robbie, I'll be there, I always am as I have a ST as you well know. In Block 4 or Block 10:rolleyes::rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Robbie, I'll be there, I always am as I have a ST as you well know. The crux of the issue seems to be what constitutes a 'real fan' as oppose to a real supporter. I was well aware of 'The Lowe Factor' only a fool wouldn't be but equally only a fool decides that the best action to take would be to stay away and help push the club over the cliff edge. That's the difference between a real fan and a real supporter the latter is at the edge trying to help shore it up and stop the shove. I dont care what a real fan is to be honest. What I do know is that we have 13-14000 diehards and probably the biggest fan base in the South. I dont regard any of those thousands of Saints fans across the South of England as fools. Indeed, I think they have good taste Reality is a world most of those fans occupy, they're coming out today as Lowe has been removed and they know they're in for entertainment. Enjoy witnessing the Spirit of Southampton again today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 It is indeed a pity (I'd go for a rather stronger word in there though) that the euphoria and wave of optimism didn't carry on from the Sheff Utd game, but as we all know, a new Board came in and took us down another route entirely. I also wonder what Mark Wotte will make of today's gate and atmosphere???? No doubt Wotte will be bemused at how fickle and narrow minded we can be at times and that with this kind of support how some of our draws and close defeats could have been turned into more points. No doubt he'll be pleased but also like me I guess he'll be somewhat reflective that sometimes people pay a price to get what they wish for without working for it. I am not sad to see Lowe go but I am very sad to see that we needed to put the club on the brink to achieve it. I suspect any new investor will look at attendances over the past 8 years and will be well aware of how much they need to spend to achieve a crowd figure that will be consistent to todays and will be making offers accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 In Block 4 or Block 10:rolleyes::rolleyes: Behind you! Panto starts at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I am not sad to see Lowe go but I am very sad to see that we needed to put the club on the brink to achieve it. We didnt - Lowe did. He and the other shareholders could have sold this club 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooh it's a corner Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 The sun is shining. God is in his Heaven. Goosebumps just thinking about today. Off in about half an hour, for a pre match bevvie or three. I am really going to enjoy today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I dont care what a real fan is to be honest. What I do know is that we have 13-14000 diehards and probably the biggest fan base in the South. I dont regard any of those thousands of Saints fans across the South of England as fools. Indeed, I think they have good taste Reality is a world most of those fans occupy, they're coming out today as Lowe has been removed and they know they're in for entertainment. Enjoy witnessing the Spirit of Southampton again today. How will the entertainment be any different from Wotte and the team than the past good recent run at home? If you mean the opportunity of standing in the stands signing 'the witch is dead' then whatever floats your boat but who is to say we have not laid ourselves bare to be picked up for a song by some shyster that makes Lowe look benevolent. Hope I'm wrong but hope is all we have and with an extra few thousand we could still have influence over our destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 How will the entertainment be any different from Wotte and the team than the past good recent run at home? If you mean the opportunity of standing in the stands signing 'the witch is dead' then whatever floats your boat but who is to say we have not laid ourselves bare to be picked up for a song by some shyster that makes Lowe look benevolent. Hope I'm wrong but hope is all we have and with an extra few thousand we could still have influence over our destiny. LOL! Tell you what 19, regardless of the result come on and post your own answer to this question after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Behind you! Panto starts at 3 I'd want bullshtters/trolss like you right in front of me where I can see you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I'd want bullshtters/trolss like you right in front of me where I can see you. Don't worry, he'll be the one holding a bunch of sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Although I feel pretty optimistic at the moment however optimism was high when Wilde took over but that led to complete disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 [/size][/size][/b] If we end up getting relegated what percentage of today's crowd will loyally turn up next season when the dust on the 'wave of optimisim' has settled? 50% at best I would imagine even without the Lowe factor. The Football League will meet on Tuesday and unfortunately I think they will issue us with a points deduction and effectively resign us to League 1 unless we can pull off a miracle. We are obviously and cleverly exploiting a loop hole in the league rules regard holding companies that was designed to protect clubs owned by a holding company with other companies under its umbrella. If a club was well run and profitable but one of the other companies under its holding company went bust thereby putting the group into administration, the league in this instance would not want to impose a penalty for reasons of fairness. Clearly this is not the case in our instance and if the Football league are to hold off a sudden surge in clubs reporting to new holding companies designed solely to protect them from a points deduction, especially in these times, then I think Tuesday the League will close their loophole and we will be made an example of their new rules. It' s pity the euphoria and wave of optimism didn't carry on from the Sheff Utd game last season. Barclays pulled the plug because although we delivered in all their other demands we didn't deliver in the one area the fans could have and should have contributed - revenue. As a result, I only hope this 'wave of optimisim' isn't the bow wave of a silent and slightly more menacing tsunami that will destroy the club as we have known it. After Sheff. Utd. last season some idiots took over the club and put the club in jeapordy and concentrated on TRAINS and themselves..:smt017. But understanderable...As they were not Football people OR business people. Apparently they hated ordinary people and more so they despised Saints fans......Hopefully we will recover now these buffoons have gone.:smt049 Look forward matey and one day you will support Saints or tire of your stupidity on this forun. COYR:smt049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 After Sheff. Utd. last season some idiots took over the club and put the club in jeapordy and concentrated on TRAINS and themselves..:smt017. But understanderable...As they were not Football people OR business people. Apparently they hated ordinary people and more so they despised Saints fans......Hopefully we will recover now these buffoons have gone.:smt049 Look forward matey and one day you will support Saints or tire of your stupidity on this forun. COYR:smt049 Perhaps fitting OSM that your commente were the last on the 'Wave of Optimism' thread. We can only hope my stupidity has reason to change over the coming months but I still think its 50/50 we will be playing in League 2 come August 2010 and that's if we get a buyer. We as supporters should have done more to help this club keep its hands on its own destiny but 90% of those on the ticket base seem to prefer their actions thereby relinquishing control of the club to essentially our symaphetic creditors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Perhaps fitting OSM that your commente were the last on the 'Wave of Optimism' thread. We can only hope my stupidity has reason to change over the coming months but I still think its 50/50 we will be playing in League 2 come August 2010 and that's if we get a buyer. We as supporters should have done more to help this club keep its hands on its own destiny but 90% of those on the ticket base seem to prefer their actions thereby relinquishing control of the club to essentially our symaphetic creditors. You still dont get it do you? It is not the supporters fault that we are in this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 A wave of optimism, sadly dashed on the rocks of incapability. Let's hope we do better in L1, if we get there? Magners and Merlot, hardly conducive to logical thought process! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 LOL! Tell you what 19, regardless of the result come on and post your own answer to this question after the game. Hello Robbie, seems the players have been badly affected by recent events and puzzled no doubt like the rest of us loyal supporters as to why so many fans came back today to cheer on pretty much the same team that had been on a good run at home recently. The high point - the Northam reaction to the deserting rates. The low point - Crouch and McMenemy - dawning of a new age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Perhaps fitting OSM that your commente were the last on the 'Wave of Optimism' thread. We can only hope my stupidity has reason to change over the coming months but I still think its 50/50 we will be playing in League 2 come August 2010 and that's if we get a buyer. We as supporters should have done more to help this club keep its hands on its own destiny but 90% of those on the ticket base seem to prefer their actions thereby relinquishing control of the club to essentially our symaphetic creditors. Regardless of the departed Directors we will rise from the ashes.:smt049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 You still dont get it do you? It is not the supporters fault that we are in this position. Oh yes it is. There is a thing called collective responsibility and 15,000 appreciate that fact and based on today's attendance at least 12,000 don't. Do you think we would have gone into administration if crowd levels were maintained at a not unreasonable 20k? Regardless of Lowe we needed to show from the off what a well supported club we were to potential investors and willing to stick by the team through the good and bad times. All we've done is sent a message to any potential investor that if 'you f*** it up we will desert you until you've lost the lot'. Very reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Regardless of the departed Directors we will rise from the ashes.:smt049 I hope so and I also hope departed directors equates to anyone who has sat in the boardroom in the past 13 years. We need a new dawn not more false ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Oh yes it is. There is a thing called collective responsibility and 15,000 appreciate that fact and based on today's attendance at least 12,000 don't. Do you think we would have gone into administration if crowd levels were maintained at a not unreasonable 20k? Regardless of Lowe we needed to show from the off what a well supported club we were to potential investors and willing to stick by the team through the good and bad times. All we've done is sent a message to any potential investor that if 'you f*** it up we will desert you until you've lost the lot'. Very reassuring. Yes I think you are right it would not be easy running SFC in the current environment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 You still dont get it do you? It is not the supporters fault that we are in this position. I think Rupert should have been more upfront a few months back He's hated by the fans anyway, so he had nothing to lose on that score. He should have said 'unless we have crowds of over 22000, we are in serious danger of being wound up' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Oh yes it is. There is a thing called collective responsibility and 15,000 appreciate that fact and based on today's attendance at least 12,000 don't. Do you think we would have gone into administration if crowd levels were maintained at a not unreasonable 20k? Regardless of Lowe we needed to show from the off what a well supported club we were to potential investors and willing to stick by the team through the good and bad times. All we've done is sent a message to any potential investor that if 'you f*** it up we will desert you until you've lost the lot'. Very reassuring. Surely even you must realise that fans stayed away ,not because they wanted Saints to do badly,but because they hated Lowe and the way he ruined this club. It speaks volumes that thousands came back the day after Lowe left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I hope so and I also hope departed directors equates to anyone who has sat in the boardroom in the past 13 years. We need a new dawn not more false ones. You are starting to feel all cuddly there 19:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 It speaks volumes that thousands came back the day after Lowe left. No it doesn't. slashed prices, sunny weather, impending relegation, impending liquidation AND Lowe going were all factors. Lowe is a convenient excuse for those that only sing when we're winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 To be honest I am being swayed by a strong tide in favour of bringing Mr Lowe back...He is our only saviour.....Ponty, please help me so many posters pushing my boat in the wrong direction...it must be the current. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Oh yes it is. There is a thing called collective responsibility and 15,000 appreciate that fact and based on today's attendance at least 12,000 don't. Do you think we would have gone into administration if crowd levels were maintained at a not unreasonable 20k? Regardless of Lowe we needed to show from the off what a well supported club we were to potential investors and willing to stick by the team through the good and bad times. All we've done is sent a message to any potential investor that if 'you f*** it up we will desert you until you've lost the lot'. Very reassuring. Oh no it isnt!! We would still have gone down this route, albeit prolonged a bit more. The facts are clear, we needed investement, that would not have happened whilst Lowe was here. So dont you dare come on here spouting your carp time and time again about how its the fans fault. We all know the history and the countless mistakes Lowe has made. He instigated this mess and damn sure made sure he saw it through, so cheers rupes, i hope you're happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Hello Robbie, seems the players have been badly affected by recent events and puzzled no doubt like the rest of us loyal supporters as to why so many fans came back today to cheer on pretty much the same team that had been on a good run at home recently. The high point - the Northam reaction to the deserting rates. The low point - Crouch and McMenemy - dawning of a new age? i suppose you count yourself as one of these do you? Cant see the woods for the trees can you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 No it doesn't. slashed prices, sunny weather, impending relegation, impending liquidation AND Lowe going were all factors. Lowe is a convenient excuse for those that only sing when we're winning. Well ive been to many a game when its been sunny and the price has been slashed and apart from the last game of last season(when Lowe wasnt here anyway),there hasnt been such a feelgood factor or such a good turnout.Shame the team(Davis apart),didnt live up to the expectation. Lowes departure definately added a few thousand to the gate. I very much doubt there wouldve been so many at todays game if Lowe was still here,despite the cheap tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 i suppose you count yourself as one of these do you? Cant see the woods for the trees can you. FFS Mike, we've all just got to let it go. Lowe is gone, hopefully the others too - we just need to move on. Any fan who goes every week (regardless of who is their boardroom favourite) is a loyal fan. If we don't stop squabbling amongst ourselves we might as well give up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Well ive been to many a game when its been sunny and the price has been slashed and apart from the last game of last season(when Lowe wasnt here anyway),there hasnt been such a feelgood factor or such a good turnout.Shame the team(Davis apart),didnt live up to the expectation. Lowes departure definately added a few thousand to the gate. I very much doubt there wouldve been so many at todays game if Lowe was still here,despite the cheap tickets. I don't disagree that Lowe going led to more tickets selling, just don't believe it was the only / the major reason. Personally I'd put it down to our perilous situation. I do think it a shame the game didn't deliver. Every time this season that Saints have had a chance to advertise themselves (be it a bigger than average gate or tv slot), they've failed to do the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Cant disagree with anything you have said Alain Perrin.I also think you make a good point saying that as fans,regardless of who we have supported in the past,we need to move on. Lets hope we can become united now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 So then, this 'wave' of optimism, was it of tidal proportions or should we really have claimed a 'ripple' instead - it's just that it all seems to have petered out already and doom and gloom (normality?) abounds once again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 I think Rupert should have been more upfront a few months back He's hated by the fans anyway, so he had nothing to lose on that score. He should have said 'unless we have crowds of over 22000, we are in serious danger of being wound up' Dicko, I agree but I think for those who were prepared to listen Jim Hone was saying something very similar before Crouchie took control and he told us the club would not have to sell players for financial reasons?! Lowe's silence was more powerful than any of Crouch's fan friendly rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 So then, this 'wave' of optimism, was it of tidal proportions or should we really have claimed a 'ripple' instead - it's just that it all seems to have petered out already and doom and gloom (normality?) abounds once again.... Micky, support him or loathe him under Lowe we could have remained in charge of our own destiny if about 25% of that extra 10-12,000 had attended all season. As it is this 'wave of optimism' is/was based on the fact Lowe had been ousted and we were in administration. To put it another way we got rid of a hated man who was helping the club to survive to replace our fate effectively in the hands of people who care about the club and it's fans the least, our creditors. The anti-Lowe protesters ran out of steam when Wotte put a good run of results together so hardly surprising they go quiet if after one game without Lowe and the easiest home game of the season on paper we are deeper in the mire and a points deduction to follow on Tuesday. Still at least we have a game in hand that evening to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 Micky, support him or loathe him under Lowe we could have remained in charge of our own destiny if about 25% of that extra 10-12,000 had attended all season. As it is this 'wave of optimism' is/was based on the fact Lowe had been ousted and we were in administration. To put it another way we got rid of a hated man who was helping the club to survive to replace our fate effectively in the hands of people who care about the club and it's fans the least, our creditors. The anti-Lowe protesters ran out of steam when Wotte put a good run of results together so hardly surprising they go quiet if after one game without Lowe and the easiest home game of the season on paper we are deeper in the mire and a points deduction to follow on Tuesday. Still at least we have a game in hand that evening to play. Did you get the winner of the Grand National 19 C (I did by the way but thats another story)?? If not, did you take defeat as badly as you are taking the loss of Lowe & co?? You backed the wrong horse and you lost with him. I hope you don't take the same attitude to your horse race bets. I just cannot stand bad losers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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