Legod Third Coming Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 (edited) I don't get it. While he was possibly saving us we hardly heard from the pro-Lowe brigade. Now he has presided over a reduction in business turnover from £60m to totally bust, they're all out in force telling us what a great job he did??? Hello. Are you people off your fecking trollies?? I don't even dislike the bloke that much. But claiming the old king is alive when he's six feet under is barking. You might as well tell us Reggie Kray was alright really, we just didn't spend enough time in his company. I'm confused and no mistake. Edited 17 April, 2009 by Legod Third Coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I don't get it. While he was possibly saving us we hardly hard from the pro-Lowe brigade. Now he has presided over a reduction in business turnover from £60m to totally bust, they're all out in force telling us that it was all Crouch's fault....... Slight edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 (edited) I don't get it. While he was possibly saving us we hardly hard from the pro-Lowe brigade. Now he has presided over a reduction in business turnover from £60m to totally bust, they're all out in force telling us what a great job he did??? Hello. Are you people off your fecking trollies?? I don't even dislike the bloke that much. But claiming the old king is alive when he's six feet under is barking. You might as well tell us Reggie Kray was alright really, we just didn't spend enough time in his company. I dont think it was Crouch's fault either but he did side with Mr Wilde I'm confused and no mistake. I dont think that is the point although things have gone badly wrong he is not totally responsible. The time he was not involved appears to me the time when the most damage was done I dont think it was Crouch's fault either but he does not seem to have much respect from other board members Edited 17 April, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I dont think that is the point although things have gone badly wrong he is not totally responsible. The time he was not involved appears to me the time when the most damage was done I rest my case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I think the same about the " It's the fans fault " brigade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Part of the DAMAGE LIMITATION..Following on from Ruperts World tour of The radio and TV studios and of course the press releases. Everyone else is to blame...Will be The name on the CD cover. WELL if it is not that it is a bad time in the calender month ( before yo Ra Ra girls start...I mean for Wherewolves or is that the moon) or the SUN is in the wrong position in the sky......OR they're crying due to their lack of oppotunities at the top table with the boss.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northant Saint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I'm sick of hearing all this pro-lower/ lowe luvvie bo**ox. Hes gone. Its over. Look to the future. Besides, I doubt you're really arguing against many people on this forum now, as most people admit he did a rubbish job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I rest my case... Well although you appear to be an intelligent poster you do not seem to accept others considered opinions if they differ from yours In fact you are rather rude and sometimes offensive . I am not Pro or Anti Lowe but somebody open hinded to analyse the facts and come to my own conclusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I think its a matter of interpretation. For many its black and white, for others if shades of grey and some just find it odd that only one person is blamed when the biggest single culprit is frankly the unhealthy financial divide between the Prem and the rest - the 30mil loss of revenue when relegated - which as its sport remember someone has to have afflicted to them - can you imagine any other walk of life in which at teh satrt of the year 3 business from 20 are going to have their income reduced by 60% at the end simply because 3 have to? The recent **** is llsightly different from teh relegation losses in that they could have been prevented IF the board had a) not been bull****ted to by Wilde re investors in teh wings, b) CRouch had vetoed spening the money we did not have confirmed - but in both cases they were responding to the fan calls for 'ambition' and football firts which to be fair were a natural reaction to the 'prudent years' under Rupert - We should not have forgotten though that it was not prudence that relegated us, but mis spending what we did have. Why are more saying this now, I dont think they are, its just taht whilst we wait in hope for a buyer, its very much a current topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Well although you appear to be an intelligent poster you do not seem to accept others considered opinions if they differ from yours In fact you are rather rude and sometimes offensive . I am not Pro or Anti Lowe but somebody open hinded to analyse the facts and come to my own conclusions Don't belong on here then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I don't get it. While he was possibly saving us we hardly heard from the pro-Lowe brigade. Now he has presided over a reduction in business turnover from £60m to totally bust, they're all out in force telling us what a great job he did??? Hello. Are you people off your fecking trollies?? I don't even dislike the bloke that much. But claiming the old king is alive when he's six feet under is barking. You might as well tell us Reggie Kray was alright really, we just didn't spend enough time in his company. I'm confused and no mistake. For some bizarre reason, they seem to feel they have been vindicated. Which is f**king whacko. The bloke has presided over two relegations, the club going bust and probably the club ceasing to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Well although you appear to be an intelligent poster you do not seem to accept others considered opinions if they differ from yours In fact you are rather rude and sometimes offensive . I am not Pro or Anti Lowe but somebody open hinded to analyse the facts and come to my own conclusions Dont say that - Alps will want you to join me on the Fence.....;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Dont say that - Alps will want you to join me on the Fence.....;-) What fence is that then ? Its you who thinks it exists. For me, you have been nothing of the sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I don't get it. While he was possibly saving us we hardly heard from the pro-Lowe brigade. Now he has presided over a reduction in business turnover from £60m to totally bust, they're all out in force telling us what a great job he did??? Hello. Are you people off your fecking trollies?? I don't even dislike the bloke that much. But claiming the old king is alive when he's six feet under is barking. You might as well tell us Reggie Kray was alright really, we just didn't spend enough time in his company. I'm confused and no mistake. I think they want us to know the whole picture of the reason for our capitulation. Not just 90% of the reason for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I think they want us to know the whole picture of the reason for our capitulation. Not just 90% of the reason for it. hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 For some bizarre reason, they seem to feel they have been vindicated. Which is f**king whacko. The bloke has presided over two relegations, the club going bust and probably the club ceasing to exist. If he was in Charge of a big club with lots of resources I would agree with you but we are talking about SFC with limited resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 You might as well tell us Reggie Kray was alright really, we just didn't spend enough time in his company. I'm confused and no mistake. I had an aunty and uncle who owned a filling station in the east end at the time of the Krays and they said Reggie and Ronnie (who used the garage)were perfect gents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 In fairness it's only NC and we all recognise him as the Village Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 If he was in Charge of a big club with lots of resources I would agree with you but we are talking about SFC with limited resources. What a truly pathetic excuse. We WERE a reasonably big club with plenty of resources until Lowe decided to play the "3 managers a season" game. And the most bizarre thing is that he repeated the SAME shiit this season. Even imbeciles learn from their mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 For some bizarre reason, they seem to feel they have been vindicated. Which is f**king whacko. The bloke has presided over two relegations, the club going bust and probably the club ceasing to exist. Whacko? Its insane. I guess some people are working for his errr reputation (knowing the media will be following this messageboard closer than usual at the moment). I think we need a thread that says : 'journalists please read this' whilst we ask the Club historian, Duncan, to answer their questions over this issue. I think you'll find Lowe features for a sizeable part of the blame. Still hope exists now! Although I do sometimes feel physically sick when I consider that despite hard campaigning Lowe refused to look for a buyer last summer and/or accept the SISU deal along with others... it will go down as the stupidist error of judgement to back a failed plc instead of a team and will lead to our place in League 1 next season as a result. Still, it killed SLH plc and ridded us from Lowe and Wilde forever. We have many buyers in the pot and the chance to rebuild with an average gate since Lowe left rising from 14000 to 27000 already.... mmm .... wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 What fence is that then ? Its you who thinks it exists. For me, you have been nothing of the sort. Do you know from the way you post you sound like a WW2 Spitfire pilot 'Wotto - old bean, just had a bash at the Fence you know - think I got the bastard with a full on double barrals in the wedding tackle, bit of a Lowe blow but hey - hes an evil swine you know - double agent' ....mean while back in reality Frank tries once again for the 100th time to try and help the 'pilot Alps (DFM, VD Bar and Scar)' to distinguish between being supportive of a person and supportive of an approach or even just understaning it and accepting it has both pros and cons.... but that bit of shrapnel lodged in the left buttock that he took over Dover has permanently damaged 7 of the 32 neurons in his brain.... so I must be sensitive to his plight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I think they want us to know the whole picture of the reason for our capitulation. Not just 90% of the reason for it. Nope - the reason why we are in this mess is money - or lack of it - how we got into that situation is due 90% due to relegation and 10% to whats happened since - whats behind this is more complex but yes most of it leads to decisions made by young Rupert, some to Wilde and Crouch, some to managers and some to players who could not be arsed. Understnding the complexities is interseting to some, and importantly, hopefully a good way of ensuring we dont make the same mistakes again - oh and some of probably think that the hate thing, ans over emotive crap aimed at teh main but not only culprit is a bit sad really... in a nutshell like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Do you know from the way you post you sound like a WW2 Spitfire pilot 'Wotto - old bean, just had a bash at the Fence you know - think I got the bastard with a full on double barrals in the wedding tackle, bit of a Lowe blow but hey - hes an evil swine you know - double agent' ....mean while back in reality Frank tries once again for the 100th time to try and help the 'pilot Alps (DFM, VD Bar and Scar)' to distinguish between being supportive of a person and supportive of an approach or even just understaning it and accepting it has both pros and cons.... but that bit of shrapnel lodged in the left buttock that he took over Dover has permanently damaged 7 of the 32 neurons in his brain.... so I must be sensitive to his plight. Remind me of the Pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Careful now. You saying that he is an imbecile is going to far. Imbeciles know when to quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Remind me of the Pros. How long you got? There were pros to many of the initiatives and approaches taken by lowe even some of those that did not work - many failed in crap execution, does not make the idea wrong... its just an alternative perspective and you know it really ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Where the **** is Scooby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I think its a matter of interpretation. For many its black and white, for others if shades of grey and some just find it odd that only one person is blamed when the biggest single culprit is frankly the unhealthy financial divide between the Prem and the rest - the 30mil loss of revenue when relegated - which as its sport remember someone has to have afflicted to them - can you imagine any other walk of life in which at teh satrt of the year 3 business from 20 are going to have their income reduced by 60% at the end simply because 3 have to? The recent **** is llsightly different from teh relegation losses in that they could have been prevented IF the board had a) not been bull****ted to by Wilde re investors in teh wings, b) CRouch had vetoed spening the money we did not have confirmed - but in both cases they were responding to the fan calls for 'ambition' and football firts which to be fair were a natural reaction to the 'prudent years' under Rupert - We should not have forgotten though that it was not prudence that relegated us, but mis spending what we did have. Why are more saying this now, I dont think they are, its just taht whilst we wait in hope for a buyer, its very much a current topic. Your "shades of grey" argument is about as valid as the "Hitler did build some good cars.." point of view. Why don't you just admit you were wrong about Lowe? There is no fence to sit on anymore, he is a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Where the **** is Scooby? He deserted along time ago... about the time we discovered the 'faceinahole' or whatever it was called website. Saw the light with Sundance, realised as I did 3 years or so ago now that Lowe was indeed a disaster for SFC and should no longer being tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I think its a matter of interpretation. For many its black and white, for others if shades of grey and some just find it odd that only one person is blamed when the biggest single culprit is frankly the unhealthy financial divide between the Prem and the rest - the 30mil loss of revenue when relegated - which as its sport remember someone has to have afflicted to them - can you imagine any other walk of life in which at teh satrt of the year 3 business from 20 are going to have their income reduced by 60% at the end simply because 3 have to? The recent **** is llsightly different from teh relegation losses in that they could have been prevented IF the board had a) not been bull****ted to by Wilde re investors in teh wings, b) CRouch had vetoed spening the money we did not have confirmed - but in both cases they were responding to the fan calls for 'ambition' and football firts which to be fair were a natural reaction to the 'prudent years' under Rupert - We should not have forgotten though that it was not prudence that relegated us, but mis spending what we did have. Why are more saying this now, I dont think they are, its just taht whilst we wait in hope for a buyer, its very much a current topic. None more so than this season with what little we did have being spunked on rubbish youngsters and an equally rubbish management set up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Your "shades of grey" argument is about as valid as the "Hitler did build some good cars.." point of view. Why don't you just admit you were wrong about Lowe? There is no fence to sit on anymore, he is a failure. Bangs head against brik wall/desk/keyboard - its never feckin been about just Lowe and the HItlet anology is frankly abit beneath you mate. Look see it as you want, to wahatever level - he has gone never to return so it makes feck all difference anyway, I just hope that those so vociferously against anything that he did, to teh extent of not bothering with due diligence over the next set of clowns have learnt something from all this.... we need to be far more careful about what we wish for, then maybe we might get a board that gets more right than it gets wrong - 51% would do me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I don't get it. While he was possibly saving us we hardly heard from the pro-Lowe brigade. Now he has presided over a reduction in business turnover from £60m to totally bust, they're all out in force telling us what a great job he did??? Hello. Are you people off your fecking trollies?? I don't even dislike the bloke that much. But claiming the old king is alive when he's six feet under is barking. You might as well tell us Reggie Kray was alright really, we just didn't spend enough time in his company. I'm confused and no mistake. Of course, you could argue that the pro-Lowes are no more vociferous than before and that the anti-Lowes are much more vociferous. Some even seeming to celebrate that he is gone even while that could mean the end of the club. Surely the time to argue the pros and cons is once the fate of the club is known? Now is the time to pull together. Or is that too rational? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Nope - the reason why we are in this mess is money - or lack of it - how we got into that situation is due 90% due to relegation and 10% to whats happened since - whats behind this is more complex but yes most of it leads to decisions made by young Rupert, some to Wilde and Crouch, some to managers and some to players who could not be arsed. Understnding the complexities is interseting to some, and importantly, hopefully a good way of ensuring we dont make the same mistakes again - oh and some of probably think that the hate thing, ans over emotive crap aimed at teh main but not only culprit is a bit sad really... in a nutshell like. Nope. We could have sold the club years ago and avoided the financial disaster that occurred. Even to this day pundits and journalists are wondering what has happened to Southampton's millions. One day I am sure the full extent of this mismanagement will be revealed. Yes not all the blame lies with Lowe but the lions share of it does.. for me 90%. You see its not just bad decision-making its the whole package Lowe brought - lack of confidence in his ability, lack of integrity, arrogance and DISUNITY at boardroom level and in the stands. Lack of confidence in a loser and a failure that finally took a gutsy Barclays bank to seize the moment and do us all a favour. That is graphically illustrated by the dramatic increase in attendence at SMS despite a crap team and manager IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 What a truly pathetic excuse. We WERE a reasonably big club with plenty of resources until Lowe decided to play the "3 managers a season" game. And the most bizarre thing is that he repeated the SAME shiit this season. Even imbeciles learn from their mistakes...In LC's tenure (only a short period) and he had 3 managers. Lol. Wilde and his bunch has been a massive impact on our fortunes. RL has been put in power by Askham and Wilde, they are the people who are as much been part of our misfortune. I dont know why we are carrying on with all this sham,we sdhould be more worried what administration may do to us..positive or negative? Unless we get a proper investor we will be in this position for evermore.Having people who need to buy for a knockdown price or they cant buy us cannot be the people to take us to the good times again.Beggars cant be choosers though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 How long you got? There were pros to many of the initiatives and approaches taken by lowe even some of those that did not work - many failed in crap execution' date=' does not make the idea wrong... its just an alternative perspective and you know it really ;-)[/quote'] Well Lowes alternative perspective had us wasting good money on SCW, an eye dome and Simon Cliffords Brazilian stye of football,when we should have spent that parachute money on better players who might have got us back to the Prem. So i would say it does indeed make the idea wrong in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Even to this day pundits and journalists are wondering what has happened to Southampton's millions. One day I am sure the full extent of this mismanagement will be revealed. . Sorry that its that sort of 'punditry that really ****es me off because there ios NO big moissing millions we have independently audited accounts as a PLC and its clear to see where ALL the moneys went - these old managers ex players jumping on the schardenfreude bandwagon have simply not done any homework and are ignorant - its embarrassing listening to once respected players talking susch utter sh!te. Where we fecked up is what we spent it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Of course, you could argue that the pro-Lowes are no more vociferous than before and that the anti-Lowes are much more vociferous. Some even seeming to celebrate that he is gone even while that could mean the end of the club. Surely the time to argue the pros and cons is once the fate of the club is known? Now is the time to pull together. Or is that too rational? Again.. the 'pro Lower's' were so much in a minority that what we are now witnessing with Lowe's departure is unity at almost every level less 3-4 posters on here who wish to maintain Lowe's... errrrr.... 'reputation' at a time when the media are viewing this board more often for some... errrrrrrrrr .... strange reason. We have unity now Roswell, because the catalyst that prevented it has been removed. Pro-Lowe posters are either at best delussional or trying to remind us that there may have been others still connected with the club who may have caused as much damage - the latter view I sympathise with and regard as constructive, the former is well... laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Sorry that its that sort of 'punditry that really ****es me off because there ios NO big moissing millions we have independently audited accounts as a PLC and its clear to see where ALL the moneys went - these old managers ex players jumping on the schardenfreude bandwagon have simply not done any homework and are ignorant - its embarrassing listening to once respected players talking susch utter sh!te. Where we fecked up is what we spent it on. Exactly right. That is the incompetence that I hope we'll see highlighted in a book about this era... Southampton FC 'The Lowe Years' . or 'How not to squander millions on failure'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Again.. the 'pro Lower's' were so much in a minority that what we are now witnessing with Lowe's departure is unity at almost every level less 3-4 posters on here who wish to maintain Lowe's... errrrr.... 'reputation' at a time when the media are viewing this board more often for some... errrrrrrrrr .... strange reason. We have unity now Roswell, because the catalyst that prevented it has been removed. Pro-Lowe posters are either at best delussional or trying to remind us that there may have been others still connected with the club who may have caused as much damage - the latter view I sympathise with and regard as constructive, the former is well... laughable. I dont see unity on the fanbase.I suggest you wait to see what happens after administration. The triumphant Wilde bunchers were giving it the big one last time. Wilde tee shirts etc Looooooooooooool I hope we get somebody all sides can unite behind, but lets hope we still have a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Beggars cant be choosers though. Again Nick, I dont think a Club with x3 significant offers (thus refered to by Fry) can be considered as beggars... but I take your point. We'll end up taking one of the 35 + offers by the summer, thats for sure. Lets hope its at least a match for Coventry's SISU deal. Rather not have a hedgefund (but I suspect we havent as a serious offer)... but anyone who can bring in a class manager and achieve midtable/playoffs with a weak team and minimal finaces cleverly spent will do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I dont see unity on the fanbase.I suggest you wait to see what happens after administration. The triumphant Wilde bunchers were giving it the big one last time. Wilde tee shirts etc Looooooooooooool I hope we get somebody all sides can unite behind, but lets hope we still have a club I think we'll all get behind the new owner. He or she is on to a total winner when they take over. Noone wants Wilde or Lowe back lol ... that's unity enough for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I don't get it. While he was possibly saving us we hardly heard from the pro-Lowe brigade. Now he has presided over a reduction in business turnover from £60m to totally bust, they're all out in force telling us what a great job he did??? Hello. Are you people off your fecking trollies?? I don't even dislike the bloke that much. But claiming the old king is alive when he's six feet under is barking. You might as well tell us Reggie Kray was alright really, we just didn't spend enough time in his company. I'm confused and no mistake. As Lowe is such a good chief executive I'm sure he will have loads of job offers, after all there are 91 other football clubs in England who must now be fighting over themselves to use his skills. Why stop at football though? There must be 1000's of other company's who are writing out their job offers to him right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 As Lowe is such a good chief executive I'm sure he will have loads of job offers, after all there are 91 other football clubs in England who must now be fighting over themselves to use his skills. Why stop at football though? There must be 1000's of other company's who are writing out their job offers to him right now. LOL! Which is why Swindon Town turned him down along with SCW a couple of years ago! They'll be hundreds of clubs after Lowe.... not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Christ, he has gone and yet you still ***** and moan. At wht point will you look forward??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Christ, he has gone and yet you still ***** and moan. At wht point will you look forward??? I am! I am so optimistic again! ... I want to kiss you! SMOOOOCH!!! We're going to be bought out! At last... time to celebrate. But who is the mystery new superhero owner?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Bangs head against brik wall/desk/keyboard - its never feckin been about just Lowe and the HItlet anology is frankly abit beneath you mate. Look see it as you want' date=' to wahatever level - he has gone never to return so it makes feck all difference anyway, I just hope that those so vociferously against anything that he did, to teh extent of not bothering with due diligence over the next set of clowns have learnt something from all this.... we need to be far more careful about what we wish for, then maybe we might get a board that gets more right than it gets wrong - 51% would do me.[/quote'] Why cant you just say it - "I was wrong about Rupert", it can't be that hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Strange sort of thread - who are all these 'pro-Lowe' posters that have now allegedley raised their heads...??? Damned if I can see them - yes 19C is the obvious candidate and generally makes some decent valid arguments. Yes he is shouted down as he is in the minority here - but that doesn't necessarily make all of his arguments wrong. Perhaps he is just braver than the average contributor to the site. It's fairly easy, when standing with the overwhelming majority, to act the big 'I am' - takes a braver person to put their point of view to the madding crowd if it's not what they want to hear. It's opinion - everybody is entitled to thier own - why we have baiting threads such as this is beyond me. Micky - a 'Lowe Luvvie' or whatever you want to call them...? Nope - merely because I don't have the intelligence to unravel the mess of the last 5 years. But unlike many on here, I don't actually think it was all attributable to just one man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 April, 2009 I had an aunty and uncle who owned a filling station in the east end at the time of the Krays and they said Reggie and Ronnie (who used the garage)were perfect gents. Celement Freud was a perfect gent. In that he didn't commit murder or preside over an empire of corruption, violence and gangland killings. But otherwise, spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 17 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Of course, you could argue that the pro-Lowes are no more vociferous than before and that the anti-Lowes are much more vociferous. Some even seeming to celebrate that he is gone even while that could mean the end of the club. Surely the time to argue the pros and cons is once the fate of the club is known? Now is the time to pull together. Or is that too rational? Pull together with whom? I doubt this thread does much to prevent an Indian billionnaire buying us, but I'll promise to keep shtum if you suggest otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Your "shades of grey" argument is about as valid as the "Hitler did build some good cars.." point of view. 27 posts to Godwin's Law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 17 April, 2009 Share Posted 17 April, 2009 Pull together with whom? I doubt this thread does much to prevent an Indian billionnaire buying us, but I'll promise to keep shtum if you suggest otherwise... Well, lets see, all the fans could unite and stop arguing as to who is to blame. Saint Robbie believes we have, I am not so convinced but he is closer to the action, so I will defer to him. Don't think I suggested the thread was going to stop an Indian billionaire or anyone else. Hmm...let me take another look at what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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