docker-p Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 ...who is with me setting up Southampton 1885. We may be able to start in the Blue Square league next season. We'll play in Red and White stripes and be nicknamed the 'Saints'. 1000 shares each priced at £500. No one individual allowed to own more than four shares. If the City council buys the stadium all the better as we could use it alongside Ruperts club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 ...who is with me setting up Southampton 1885. We may be able to start in the Blue Square league next season. We'll play in Red and White stripes and be nicknamed the 'Saints'. 1000 shares each priced at £500. No one individual allowed to own more than four shares. If the City council buys the stadium all the better as we could use it alongside Ruperts club. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 hell yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 ...who is with me setting up Southampton 1885. We may be able to start in the Blue Square league next season. We'll play in Red and White stripes and be nicknamed the 'Saints'. 1000 shares each priced at £500. No one individual allowed to own more than four shares. If the City council buys the stadium all the better as we could use it alongside Ruperts club. Who will run the club? Who will choose the manager? All 1000 of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 26 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Who will run the club? Who will choose the manager? All 1000 of you? A CEO will be appointed to run the club and make day to day decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Won't be able to play in the Blue Square, we would have to start maybe in the Wessex League if we can get a ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 A CEO will be appointed to run the club and make day to day decisions. Who will appoint the CEO - who will be on the interview panel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 ...who is with me setting up Southampton 1885. We may be able to start in the Blue Square league next season. We'll play in Red and White stripes and be nicknamed the 'Saints'. 1000 shares each priced at £500. No one individual allowed to own more than four shares. If the City council buys the stadium all the better as we could use it alongside Ruperts club. I'd be in - already posed an idea similar to this on one of derry's 'buy the club thread' - Logically there should be 1885 founder members - I suggested that we form the 1885 club with 1885 members aiming for about £1000 a share (you could go down the £500 route if you think it was going to be a stumbling block raising the rio) - this should bring about 1.8 million which would be good initial revenue. would propose someone like Paul Masters as a manager, a great guy, well respected by all and knows the lower leagues like the back of his hand. He has quite a bit of managerail experience and is well connected. Either that or David Hughes. Someone with good connections. Defo up for this as any return of Lowe would finish the club as we know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 26 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 April, 2009 An annual vote by the shareholders would be taken to appoint a board of 9 shareholders. Those shareholders would appoint the CEO, and that said CEO will report to those 9 elected shareholders. Each year 3 board positions would be up for election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Who will appoint the CEO - who will be on the interview panel? Me and thee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 26 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I'd be in - already posed an idea similar to this on one of derry's 'buy the club thread' - Logically there should be 1885 founder members - I suggested that we form the 1885 club with 1885 members aiming for about £1000 a share (you could go down the £500 route if you think it was going to be a stumbling block raising the rio) - this should bring about 1.8 million which would be good initial revenue. would propose someone like Paul Masters as a manager, a great guy, well respected by all and knows the lower leagues like the back of his hand. He has quite a bit of managerail experience and is well connected. Either that or David Hughes. Someone with good connections. Defo up for this as any return of Lowe would finish the club as we know it! Thats a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 An annual vote by the shareholders would be taken to appoint a board of 9 shareholders. Those shareholders would appoint the CEO, and that said CEO will report to those 9 elected shareholders. Each year 3 board positions would be up for election. Just like the Red Arrows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 How can this club start in the Blue Square Premiership? Didn't someone say earlier that the only reason Saints might qualify would be because they had some money. Would £1.8m count as enough money? Where would this new club play? At SMS? How so, if RL has already gained control of Saints? Even if it could ground share, would it be able to pull in the projected 12K attendance to pay its way, given that there'd be another club called Saints playing there? If not, wherever it played, would Blue Square consider that ground suitable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Who will run the club? Who will choose the manager? All 1000 of you? Ebbsfleet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 How can this club start in the Blue Square Premiership? Didn't someone say earlier that the only reason Saints might qualify would be because they had some money. Would £1.8m count as enough money? Where would this new club play? At SMS? How so, if RL has already gained control of Saints? Even if it could ground share, would it be able to pull in the projected 12K attendance to pay its way, given that there'd be another club called Saints playing there? If not, wherever it played, would Blue Square consider that ground suitable? The Non League Paper is reporting we could be put in the Blue Square if the current club goes tits up and a new one, playing at SMS is set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Thats a good idea. I remember you mentioning this before - then I thought about the 1885 link to form somekind of club to raise a few quid to keep us going - or to help with the buy out. But if RL returns we could use it to raise the dosh for our new club. Stripes or Quarters? - what about the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 The Non League Paper is reporting we could be put in the Blue Square if the current club goes tits up and a new one, playing at SMS is set up. Yes I know, but Docker is talking about setting up another club if Lowe takes over Saints again. Not the same scenario at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I remember you mentioning this before - then I thought about the 1885 link to form somekind of club to raise a few quid to keep us going - or to help with the buy out. But if RL returns we could use it to raise the dosh for our new club. Stripes or Quarters? - what about the ground? The 1885 team played in white shirts with red sashes. I actually have one of the original red sashes and would happily donate it to the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Yes I know, but Docker is talking about setting up another club if Lowe takes over Saints again. Not the same scenario at all. Exactly, that's the point I was getting at. If a ground with floodlights and changing rooms can be found we can enter the Wessex League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Exactly, that's the point I was getting at. If a ground with floodlights and changing rooms can be found we can enter the Wessex League. Re-read the OP Lee - he was talking about Saints 1885 entering the Blue Square and playing alongside RL's Saints at SMS in the BS. However, the idea of starting up Saints 1885 as an alternative to Saints with RL at the helm, but realistically starting at a much lower level could be a grand idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Re-read the OP Lee - he was talking about Saints 1885 entering the Blue Square and playing alongside RL's Saints at SMS in the BS. However, the idea of starting up Saints 1885 as an alternative to Saints with RL at the helm, but realistically starting at a much lower level could be a grand idea.I dont thin kit will be required. If ,and I hope he doesnt, Lowe returns it will mean the club is still alive.Are you saying you'd be happier for us to fold than have Lowe.Difficult decision but???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Re-read the OP Lee - he was talking about Saints 1885 entering the Blue Square and playing alongside RL's Saints at SMS in the BS. However, the idea of starting up Saints 1885 as an alternative to Saints with RL at the helm, but realistically starting at a much lower level could be a grand idea. There is no way the club could start in the Blue Square, makes no logical sense to me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I dont thin kit will be required. If ,and I hope he doesnt, Lowe returns it will mean the club is still alive.Are you saying you'd be happier for us to fold than have Lowe.Difficult decision but???? Do you know, I don't honestly know Nick. I've been a Saints supporter since I was 8 and that's an awful long time. And it's a lot of personal history to consign to memory only. I'm hoping it's all hot air about RL coming back. But if he does, I'm not sure I could pay any sort of homage to a club run by someone, in my opinion, who is a sandwich short of a picnic. Someone who owns it out of a sense of personal vendetta and not love of the club. It's an awful dilemma and one that I really hope I don't have to face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Yes for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Saints is bigger than one man. Even if Lowe is back I shall continue to support Southampton FC so long as it exists. After all what are you going to do if he leaves a third time? Wind up 1885 and return to SFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 If required, I am in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Stimp Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Would love to be involved, only if the club does fold though rather than if Lowe comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Why don't you sell 1885 shares £1885 each, netting £3553225......not a bad start. I don't mind sticking my boots on again if you want,a 42 year old overweight striker would be a novelty IMO :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 ...who is with me setting up Southampton 1885. We may be able to start in the Blue Square league next season. We'll play in Red and White stripes and be nicknamed the 'Saints'. 1000 shares each priced at £500. No one individual allowed to own more than four shares. If the City council buys the stadium all the better as we could use it alongside Ruperts club. Great plan. Count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 A nice idea but born out of paranoia, Lowe won't be back. The minimum proof of funds is an enormous sum and I do mean enormous and two have come up with it. There is no way they don't have advisors that know everything that went on. Lowe is finished, if the potential buyers wanted to lose a lot of money he would do it for them. They aren't putting up that sort of money to let a **** like him bugger it all up in short order. Sounds a great idea for the Sunday league, then you could all go to the Saints games as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 If you replace a wooden house, plank by plank as required through wear and tear etc and eventually after many years you have a house made out of entirely new materials to the original, do you still have the same house? I guess, anyone would say it's the "same house" but it probably feels a bit different now. Bit of a strange question but this sort of illustrates how I would fell if Lowe gained control of Saints again. It wouldn't be the same club I supported as a nipper. It might have the same ground, the same kit, the same name, but something would be missing. So for me the question, of no club or a club with Lowe doesn't really make sense as they're virtually the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 A nice idea but born out of paranoia, Lowe won't be back. The minimum proof of funds is an enormous sum and I do mean enormous and two have come up with it. There is no way they don't have advisors that know everything that went on. Lowe is finished, if the potential buyers wanted to lose a lot of money he would do it for them. They aren't putting up that sort of money to let a **** like him bugger it all up in short order. Sounds a great idea for the Sunday league, then you could all go to the Saints games as well. Always good to have a plan B just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 A nice idea but born out of paranoia, Lowe won't be back. The minimum proof of funds is an enormous sum and I do mean enormous and two have come up with it. There is no way they don't have advisors that know everything that went on. Lowe is finished, if the potential buyers wanted to lose a lot of money he would do it for them. They aren't putting up that sort of money to let a **** like him bugger it all up in short order. Sounds a great idea for the Sunday league, then you could all go to the Saints games as well. When you say enormous, what do you mean? Surely not more than £20-ish million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 26 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 26 April, 2009 A nice idea but born out of paranoia, Lowe won't be back. The minimum proof of funds is an enormous sum and I do mean enormous and two have come up with it. There is no way they don't have advisors that know everything that went on. Lowe is finished, if the potential buyers wanted to lose a lot of money he would do it for them. They aren't putting up that sort of money to let a **** like him bugger it all up in short order. Sounds a great idea for the Sunday league, then you could all go to the Saints games as well. I hope you're right Derry. I want a Southampton FC I can be proud of again whatever league we're in. But if RL is to return SFC is over for me, and a new club we can be proud of should be born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SET Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Docker, sent you a PM I've said before on here that Fan Ownership of football clubs is a complete belief of mine, i'm also quite experienced being a founding member of FC United. The idea to setup a new club is great and i'm willing to be a founding member in two clubs, but you have to realise this club will not be in the BSP. The wessex league is the likely point of entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 we could buy weymouth as a start, which would give us blue square south football, then be able to change name and eventually relocated back to southampton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 He will not be back as it will require him to use his own money. Also having been a director of a bust Plc is he a fit and proper person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I remember you mentioning this before - then I thought about the 1885 link to form somekind of club to raise a few quid to keep us going - or to help with the buy out. But if RL returns we could use it to raise the dosh for our new club. Stripes or Quarters? - what about the ground? Quarters would be my preference to begin with. The playing field - lets not assume ground or stadium just yet - should be called the Antelope Ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Regarding stadium/ground how about trying to share with AFC Totton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 ...who is with me setting up Southampton 1885. We may be able to start in the Blue Square league next season. We'll play in Red and White stripes and be nicknamed the 'Saints'. 1000 shares each priced at £500. No one individual allowed to own more than four shares. If the City council buys the stadium all the better as we could use it alongside Ruperts club. every day of the week mate, yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Isn't this a bit stupid if the actual SFC is still running? Would just drive people away and SFC would lose out on money if a few people switch to this 1885 team. But I agree, something needs to be set up if the club goes out of existence, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Quarters would be my preference to begin with. The playing field - lets not assume ground or stadium just yet - should be called the Antelope Ground. Like it - do we change its name to the Dell after a few years?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Isn't this a bit stupid if the actual SFC is still running? Would just drive people away and SFC would lose out on money if a few people switch to this 1885 team. But I agree, something needs to be set up if the club goes out of existence, yes. Griffo - this is a verp plan B just in case RL strides up to the plate again. Hopefully this will never happen but clearly shows to any reading the lengths the fanbase will go to to not be involved with anything with Lowe in the mix. The administrator should take note! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I want to support Saints properly again, but if he returned i couldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLOTH EARS Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Regarding stadium/ground how about trying to share with AFC Totton? I am involved at AFC Totton. IF the new club were to be formed and they wished to speak to AFC Totton about ground sharing I could set up meetings with the relevent people at the club no problem. WE ( AFC Totton ) will be moving to a new ground. The exact timescales for this have yet to be set out with the developer, meetings will hopefully take place soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLOTH EARS Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I am involved at AFC Totton. IF the new club were to be formed and they wished to speak to AFC Totton about ground sharing I could set up meetings with the relevent people at the club no problem. WE ( AFC Totton ) will be moving to a new ground. The exact timescales for this have yet to be set out with the developer, meetings will hopefully take place soon. I'd just like to add that I do not know what the club would feel about the idea, they may not be willing to groundshare BUT I could set up a meeting with the relevant people to find out if they'd be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Who will run the club? Who will choose the manager? All 1000 of you? I will be the manager.I have been to the Yeovil sheepskin shop to get myself a suitable coat.I have also invested in a book of league 1 tactics.I am the the man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Bagsy the PR officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 ...who is with me setting up Southampton 1885. We may be able to start in the Blue Square league next season. We'll play in Red and White stripes and be nicknamed the 'Saints'. 1000 shares each priced at £500. No one individual allowed to own more than four shares. If the City council buys the stadium all the better as we could use it alongside Ruperts club. The original St Mary's church team did not play in red and white. Just thought I'd mention that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SET Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 (edited) If people are serious about doing this we need to get the wheels in motion now. IMO as the time is constrained we need to create a steering committee who will get the club off the ground, then once up and running an EGM would be called for the membership to vote on the board of their choice. We're going to need a few skills Legal Finance Web Development Marketing/PR but mostly complete commitment to the idea of fan ownership. If you think you can help please feel free to email southampton1885@googlemail.com, we can then try and setup a meeting. Ideally someone with no issues buys SFC and this idea can go away, but just incase the worst happens we need to be ready. Edited 27 April, 2009 by SET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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