NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 Maybe John was having a huff after being part of a team that outplayed his old club? It's possible. I would expect him to still have a lot of good feeling for Brum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2008 (edited) small thing but I like the way JP is with players -he called DMG back, as missed shaking his end to congratulate him Edited 26 August, 2008 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintcrris Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 small thing but like the way JP is with players -call DMG back as missed shaking his end to congratulate him What? who? Is this really important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 What? who? Is this really important? Of course it is. Interaction is precisely one of the things Burley didn't do with his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2008 it was one of things that players raved about with Mourinhio (no not saying JP is as good before I get slated!) so yes it does matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 small thing but like the way JP is with players -call DMG back as missed shaking his end to congratulate him wow, they must really get on well!!!:shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I would edit it to hand but think I will leave it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 I would edit it to hand but think I will leave it! tis worth it from a comedy point of view!! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 26 August, 2008 Share Posted 26 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice? Maybe he wasnt happy at being poleaxed just before the final whistle and the ref did nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 John without Saganowski is like a meal without Jaffa Cakes. You might aswell just not bother really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Le Shearer Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 John without Saganowski is like a meal without Jaffa Cakes. You might aswell just not bother really. what a ridiculous statement. and (knowing you) : pleeeease dont ask why...that`s just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pez86 Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Maybe unhappy about the signing of Pekhart? More competition for a place he already hasn't got. JP alluded to some people being disappointed by the extra competition in his post-match interview. Unless he changes his game I can't see Stern getting too many starts ahead of DMG and TP this year. Could be the end for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthred Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 yes, stern john was not happy at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 what a ridiculous statement. and (knowing you) : pleeeease dont ask why...that`s just the way it is. Get behind the Jaffa Cake metaphor FFS! Anway, John has scored 5 goals for Saints when Saga wasn't on the pitch. I wont bicker about it, but I have a feeling he will be the wrong side of 10 this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalshotSpit Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 sit fairly close to bench and as mgt team shook hands with all players coming off it looked like John refused and walked off in huff -did anyone else notice? During the Birmingham league match he was arguing with Poortvliet from the pitch, and did not appear to want to do as he was told. Obviously he has got the hump because of all the changes but to be honest at times he looks lazier than Raziak. He should do well to remember that he was almost on the scrap heap before he came to Saints and had his playing career partially rejuvenated. Another prima donna. If he doesn't like it, he knows where the door is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/West Saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Why, did Mourinhio shake the players end aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 Small gestures like the one JP made are important. It's a team game and not only did he want to include everybody, he noticed who he hadn't shook hands with. Detail can be important, it's not just the big picture. A small but good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homesick-saint Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 it's definitely looking like DMG is the real Jaffacake this season, doesn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 What? who? Is this really important? Yes. They`re called "Management Skills". It`s a way of getting the people who work for you to want give of their best.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 John without Saganowski is like a meal without Jaffa Cakes. You might aswell just not bother really. Well, the future is Orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 He walked off in a huff, because he got mullered in the box a few seconds before the ref blew for full time and didn't get a free-kick/penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South City Si Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 I'd be quite ****ed off if I just got punched in the face by the keeper and knocked down in the box and denyed a penalty, then my team mate get fouled in the box and still no penalty and for the ref then just blow the whistle and ignore him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 South City Si is completely right, I think he wanted to come on and score to prove a point to Jan, and when a blatent penalty claim brought up nothing and then another one the same, I think he had the right to be a bit ****ed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 I wouldn't let him take a penalty anyway TBH. *cough* Norwich *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 August, 2008 Share Posted 27 August, 2008 During the Birmingham league match he was arguing with Poortvliet from the pitch, and did not appear to want to do as he was told. Obviously he has got the hump because of all the changes but to be honest at times he looks lazier than Raziak. He should do well to remember that he was almost on the scrap heap before he came to Saints and had his playing career partially rejuvenated. Another prima donna. If he doesn't like it, he knows where the door is. ermm..he was in and out of a prem team and some of his goal talluy last season are from the prem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 Is it cos he does'nt chase back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 ermm..he was in and out of a prem team and some of his goal talluy last season are from the prem.. No its not, he left Sunderland before they played any prem matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 Get behind the Jaffa Cake metaphor FFS! Anway, John has scored 5 goals for Saints when Saga wasn't on the pitch. I wont bicker about it, but I have a feeling he will be the wrong side of 10 this season. What was his goals per game with Saga and without? I can't be ehrsed to look it up but it would probably be the more enlightening stat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 Small gestures like the one JP made are important. It's a team game and not only did he want to include everybody, he noticed who he hadn't shook hands with. Detail can be important, it's not just the big picture. A small but good sign. Agree with you.JP certainly seems good in the management of his squad. It was this style of "management" that many complimented Mourinho on as NickG points out,and also calling back McGoldrick shows a great discipline in emphasising to the player who is actually in charge.Had this been seen of Clough then it would be deemed a masterstroke in man management. It could be argued that it is easier to 'manage' the younger players as the seniors earning their mega-salaries develop an arrogance that prevents anyone telling them anything (as Merrington found out), but for working with our current squad JP appears to be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 No its not, he left Sunderland before they played any prem matches. He played one Prem game, against Brum. Came on after 58 minutes, and scored in a 2-2 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 He played one Prem game, against Brum. Came on after 58 minutes, and scored in a 2-2 draw. Ok ok, but still. Its not like his stats were harmed by that one match in the PL. The fact remains he had not been very prolific in the seasons before he came here and came close to being 1:2. His previous record in the UK (and mostly in the CCC) puts him below 1:3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 Time to GET RID. The bloke's a prize plonker and looks antediluvian in this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 29 August, 2008 Share Posted 29 August, 2008 What was his goals per game with Saga and without? I can't be ehrsed to look it up but it would probably be the more enlightening stat... I don't know about per game, but he scored 14 goals when Saga was on the pitch and 5 when he wasn't. Given that Saga only started 15 games, I think there is a strong link there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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