Alain Perrin Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 From Wikipedia.... Strachan resigned in March 2004 (to take a break from football) and was replaced by Paul Sturrock, who had been in the process of guiding Plymouth Argyle to their second promotion in three seasons. However, rumours of player dissatisfaction and personal problems dogged Sturrock, and he was replaced just five months later by reserve team coach Steve Wigley. Wigley's tenure proved disastrous, with Southampton slipping We know about the personal problems, but what is the low down on the 'rumours of player disatisfaction'? Does anyone know who the ringleaders were, who said what to whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Wikipedia can be edited by anyone in the world. Its abit like treating every comment on this site as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 23 May, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Wikipedia can be edited by anyone in the world. Its abit like treating every comment on this site as fact. Really? I didn't understand the concept.... It's not as if this is false though, is it? There were rumours at the time to the same effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 From Wikipedia.... We know about the personal problems, but what is the low down on the 'rumours of player disatisfaction'? Does anyone know who the ringleaders were, who said what to whom? There was the Blackburn game where we were losing and in the players opinion it was down to Gluggys tactics so at half time allegedly they decided to ignore him and we went on to win.I was at the game but it was televised and apparently it showed one of the players having a go at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Someone recently posted on here the stats of all our managers since LM; and Sturrucks numbers stacked up reasonably well. Surprisingly. Rumour at the time was Beattie was leading the Sturrock out campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Dodd was the main ring leader if I remember correctly. Rumours that Beattie was subbed at half time during a game but nobody agreed so they just went out for the second half with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 The trouble was that the players were used to a big name manager like Strachan and had expected the return of Glenn Hoddle. The sudden decision to appoint a manager from the lower leagues and with no Premier experience started the scepticism before Sturrock walked through the door. Had we originally appointed Hoddle, as had been planned since WGS announced that he was leaving, we would probably have remained in the Premier to this day. The decision to appoint Sturrock was a bizzare one, and was a result of a protest led by a vocal minority of misguided saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 I used to watch the academy on Saturday mornings in those days I remember we were playing Liverpool at SMS on Sunday (his first match I think), and all the 1st team were there. Luggy came out of the canteen with 2 double cheeseburgers and a KK chunky, he then stuffed his face with them whilst watching training It all looked very unprofessional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Rumour at the time was Beattie was leading the Sturrock out campaign. I heard this also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 I used to watch the academy on Saturday mornings in those days I remember we were playing Liverpool at SMS on Sunday (his first match I think), and all the 1st team were there. Luggy came out of the canteen with 2 double cheeseburgers and a KK chunky, he then stuffed his face with them whilst watching training It all looked very unprofessional We won that match 2-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Beattie,dodd and le saux decided that he wasn't good enough to manage them and virtually picked the team and formation.......thank god they did because that fat sack of **** wasn't good enough IMO. He seems a little over hyped on here by some and I really don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 We won that match 2-0. Could have been 3-0 if it wasnt for the cheeseburgers apparently. Plus the kitkat cost us a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 The trouble was that the players were used to a big name manager like Strachan and had expected the return of Glenn Hoddle. The sudden decision to appoint a manager from the lower leagues and with no Premier experience started the scepticism before Sturrock walked through the door. Had we originally appointed Hoddle, as had been planned since WGS announced that he was leaving, we would probably have remained in the Premier to this day. The decision to appoint Sturrock was a bizzare one, and was a result of a protest led by a vocal minority of misguided saints fans. Ok Glenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 Beattie,dodd and le saux decided that he wasn't good enough to manage them and virtually picked the team and formation.......thank god they did because that fat sack of **** wasn't good enough IMO. He seems a little over hyped on here by some and I really don't know why.Were those three not part of the squad that found themselves relegated though? Fact is that Lowe picked his man, didn't support him, continued to follow the cheap route and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 It wasn't Beattie in the main, it was Dodd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund24 Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 There was the Blackburn game where we were losing and in the players opinion it was down to Gluggys tactics so at half time allegedly they decided to ignore him and we went on to win.I was at the game but it was televised and apparently it showed one of the players having a go at him. We were winning 1-0 at half time and it wasn't on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 We were winning 1-0 at half time and it wasn't on TV It was the televised 12.45pm kick off match on a Saturday. Andy D'Urso infamously booked the same player twice but failed to send him off. But yeah we were winning 1-0 at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 It wasn't Beattie in the main, it was Dodd. I blame the fans;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 We all thought it was Beattie at first, mainly because he always struuted around looking petulant, I think. Then Sturrocjk gave a quote making it clear he got on OK with Beattie and so everybody decided it must be Dodd. It was another one of those things where we never really knew, but some rumours were repeated so often that, as you can see above, people now accept them as fact. Nobody here actually knows what happened, it's just rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 I used to watch the academy on Saturday mornings in those days I remember we were playing Liverpool at SMS on Sunday (his first match I think), and all the 1st team were there. Luggy came out of the canteen with 2 double cheeseburgers and a KK chunky, he then stuffed his face with them whilst watching training It all looked very unprofessional First it was an egg sandwich, now cheeseburgers and chocolate! Whatever next? Someone will be trying to convince us the man was seen drinking FLUIDS! for Gods sake, Luggy Out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 23 May, 2009 Share Posted 23 May, 2009 That would be Gluggy. Boom tish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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