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The refs in the EFL are just as poor. Its just that its not talked about as the PL understandably dominates the media.

We will have to fairly soon as he won't sign a new contract. Will be in the summer I imagine, when he just has one year left.

Pride partially restored. Now lets win some games with a more attacking lineup.

Who on the bench would people have started? Danso has made countless mistakes. Yoshida put in one of the worst CB performances I have ever seen last week. Djenepo is not fully fit. Boufal not better than Redmond for this game. Long is Long. Adams not going to start ahead of Ings. Our squad is poor in certain positions so the Manager is hamstrung because of that. We can't drop JWP as don't have any other CMs.

I think JWP has been excellent this season. Ludicrous that he has been overlooked by Southgate!

Should give Obafemi a game. That lad seems to hardly play matches.

This is an obvious, but very valid point. Wilson and Semmens spoke about it during the last fans forum as well, with the added point that being in a relegation battle (as we are again) also means that planning becomes more short term.

Is Chungy worth a loan in January? Bossed it at Urawa Red Diamonds when he left Saints, dropping into the #10 position but also having the intelligence of movement to trouble defences in behind. His finishing is still top drawer. This could be the boost the fans need, even if just a bench option and would probably be cheap which will surely appeal to the Club. Still follows Saints by the looks of his social media and I believe was a mentor of an emerging JWP when he was here before.

Womder if Cedric and Djenepo will feature in this? Would be good if Cedric could start. The key is do we go back 4 or back 5? Obviously CB is our weakest position, so surely only needing to pick two rather than 3 is sensible? Also gives more of a chance to press further forward, with an extra body further up. If we sit back and have no threat it makes it easier for them.

And when he comes on he looks miles out of his depth.

N'Lundulu is injured. Not for the first time in his career.

Good article although I feel it overlooks the fact that it has been a decline since the summer Koeman, Mane, Pelle left (2016 I think) - a decline which saw the demise of Reed ultimately. Not a decline that has just happened this year. But otherwise many pieces that are likely true. Ultimately the lack of people with knowledge of football (be that on or off field) running a football club plus a clueless owner without money to invest, is not a successful combination.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7623619/Southampton-players-remain-stunned-assistant-manager-Danny-Rohls-departure.html

Don't like many of the comments here. Valery is a young player. They are notoriously inconsistent - which is exactly what he has been. In a better squad, he would be given more time to develop. In our squad, he plays a lot because the squad is weak. That is not his fault. The Manager had taken him out the firing line and alluded to why a couple of weeks ago...and then Cedric got injured. He has few good senior pros to look after him (Fonte, S.Davis, Tadic etc) and give him advice. That is also not his fault. I have seen him have very good games, against good teams. He has ability. How many 20 year olds start in defence every week in the PL? Very few. Valery is the type of player we, as fans, should support not slate. He has a chance at Saints to be part of a good team in the future. Don't judge a kid amongst crap.

Clearly CB is a huge weakness and clearly most players were awful - but for an experienced player he was so bad its untrue. Easily his worst game for us and he had some shockers a few years back. It wasn't one or two mistakes from him, it was 90mins of absolutely woeful performance. No strength, aggression, effort or leadership from a guy with over 200 PL apps for Saints, who should be one of the players to show pride for the club. Instead he was shown up by Nathan Redmond, who is the one player who could justifyably stick two fingers up to our fans, yet showed the best attitude by a mile last night. Yoshida seems like a great bloke, but that was up there with Davenport, Alan Bennett and Ollie Lancashire for ineptness. Played like he knows his contract is up in June and there isn't another one on the horizon.

I hope not. There are many factors at play and he isnt the primary one IMO.

Depends on the context of the monitoring. If its to get a sense of how the fanbase is feeling then again, the club have monitored forums like this for years. If the club suddenly revoked someones ST for saying that JWP has never kicked on then fair enough. But I doubt it would come to that. I have seen recently on Twitter quite a bit of unsavoury stuff directed towards Owen the guy who does the vlogs. I am not a fan of them but have nothing against him personally but some of the comments made on that topic and to him were pretty poor. And most of them seem to be made by blokes in their 40s and 50s who only see football their way (and often post behind an anonymous account). Not saying the Club will monitor and tske action on those types of thing (its not up to them to govern social media) but ultimately people are responsible for what they post and what they say and someone will always be watching, be that authorities, employers, friends, family etc.

The Club and Police probably already do that. Certainly the Police do before certain matches - its just sensible as part of their planning and has nothing to do with grassing fellow Saints fans but more to do with preventing potential disorder. Besides, a number of people have been rightly prosecuted for abusive social media posts, including racism, so as long as people aren't breaking the law there should be no need for the Police to be remotely interested. If you want to post on Twitter that Vestergaard is ****e then I doubt the Police will be on your back.

Totally disagree re the CBs. They are so limited on the ball and barely try anything more than passing to the full back or the other CB. Bednarek especially is dire on the ball. Not so much in technique as having no vision aside from the above pass. That, and probably a lack of movement from Romeu and Hojbjerg. But the CBs are certainly not adventurous with their passing, and it hampers us a lot, especially at home where the opposition gets behind the ball as it takes us about 3 passes between the CBs before we get anywhere as they each just pass on the responsibility.

Palace and Burnley have had good starts. Brighton playing well but struggling to convert it into wins. Newcastle solid enough but lacking goals. Norwich look quite open but Sheff Utd and Villa seem decent sides. Would think its very likely we will be in the relegation mix unless we have a month where we pick up 10 or 12 points. IMO there are 3 worse teams than us attacking wise but at the back we are probably amongst the three poorest sides, and yet again failed to strengthen this area in the summer. Overall we are easily in the bottom 6. Will be another tight one.

A point away from home against a superior team. Can't complain, we are clearly going to be in the relegation mix again and would expect most of our rivals to lose there.

Very suprised Boufal hasn't started the last couple. He has been our best player for the last month or so.

How do you know he hasn't learned anything from the last three games?

Austin is a ****.

Will be interesting to see if he takes many of our scouts with him. Would imagine in that game many are loyal to people rather than to clubs.