CB Fry

We spent huge chunks of that season in the top four, and followed it up by doing it again the following season and finishing sixth. The best Premier League squad we ever had and probably ever will have. Ever. But yeah, lets work up "alternative realities" to those seasons. Jesus wept.

Counter-factual does mean an alternative reality scenario so it does imply "fiction" because it is can only ever be assumptions (counter to the facts). So it is the right word. Leicester is an irrelevence to be honest - they did not "build up" to winning the league, they finished 14th on 41 points the season before, they'd just come up and subsequently changed their manager that summer. They won the league out of nowhere. We finished 7th that season under Koeman so were far better placed to win the league than Leicester were when that season kicked off. We finished 14th on 41 under Adkins/Poch so our league winning season should have been the season after that, 2013-14....funny really because at that time we had a driven ambitious Champions League focused chairman but got nowhere near achieving what little old Leicester did from exactly the same starting point. Ain't it strange?

We finished 7th the following year and 6th the season after. I know it's a massive inconvenience to this counter factual story but there's nothing to suggest that Luke Shaw staying results in anything better than that. And we're dishing out £100k to a full back so how much are we paying Jay Rod in that scenario? How much are we paying Morgan and Lallana and Lambert? I worry we would be spending far more to not really do any better than we did anyway.

And if you think a "sound business model" means we finish eighth or better every single season forever than God help you.

If it's all luck then you can suck up this season then. We're just unlucky to go down. Right?

You took your time with that reply. You seem to be arguing a load of points that I haven't even mentioned but carry on frothing sweetheart. Mane was a record transfer at the time - definitely was Liverpool's biggest ever fee - so obviously not "pathetic". Grow up. The issue I have is people twatting on about Adam Lallana, about Nathan Redmond, and the fee we got for Mane. Wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah. Wah wah wah of course the decline all started in the summer of 2014, nine bloody years ago....A "decline" that involved our two best ever Premier League finishes that we will likely never repeat. Of course that was a decline, of course it was. Jesus wept. We've changed owners and managers multiple times since. So our relegation this season has got fuck all to do with selling Rickie Lambert, fuck all to do with Koeman leaving, fuck all to do with Van Dyk, fuck all to do with Les Reed, fuck all to do with the Hockey guy, fuck all to do with Mark Hughes or Danny Ings even. Fuck all. We spent £150m net this season, we're under new ownership and we made some disastrous decisions on managers and players. You're twatting on about the "selling players" routine like some chump pundit on Talksport but we had a close season last summer where we didn't sell anyone and spent a fortune. Just a load of cliche half thought through shite you can grab at but not the actual issue at all. Wah wah wah. I know you are in a breed of people absolutely desperate to draw everything bad back to wah wah wah Cortese left us but grow up. Nine years ago is irrelevant. Irrelevant. Grow up.

No one's saying that. We're just saying you're an old perv.

Look, I'm too busy masterbating over Penny Mourdant to give feedback on everyone's contributions on this thread.

It was the Coronation of their majesties King and the Queen as on the invites and all the coverage so if you are going to talk about "technically" this or that then get your facts right. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can just lie about it. The two boys are grown adults and I wouldn't expect any grown up children of mine to decide who I married or not. And Charles and Camilla are heads of state, the whole thing is not just there for William and Harry, so I don't see how any of that stuff is particularly relevant. As your snidey misogeny shows you don't like Camilla, as was clear in previous posts.

This. The Jones appointment said relegation to me and here we are. Replacing Ralph needed a big personality with relevant experience and a bit of spark to inspire the team and fans. Basically like Ralph Hasenhuttl in 2018 which felt like a big, significant appointment. Once we decided not to do that, and replace him with a too-clever-by-half appointment, we were done for. I didn't quite think we'd finish the season on Watford/Sunderland/Norwich level on mid 20 points but here we are. Bring on the Championship....

The point is the first 11 won't be the players we have now plus two. The whole squad and team will be thrown up in the air and none of us have any idea what the 1-11 will be on August 1st.

Well, it's a really excellent day for the divs on here that have been saying since February "well, actually, this weekend is not a "must win game" at all, you people don't know the true meaning of the word" Fill your fucking boots lads. Must win games agogo.

Well, you don't know that. William was front and centre of the ceremony, seems to get on with Camilla pretty well and probably wouldn't agree with your snidey misogynistic description of "that old woman following the King around". I've answered your question about why she is accepted as Queen now but not 20 years ago. Time moves on, things move on. That's the answer, it's not a mystery.

We all know your view.

We were absolutely not by far the better team, although it is true that Forest were pretty poor. We just gifted them chances over and over. I don't really think you can just say that next season we just need two players being that virtually the entire squad will be different.

Sky will be desperate for us to win to keep the relegation battle as interesting as possible and continue to pretend we are actually part of it.

I was at the same coronation brunch with SOG and sat opposite me eating a cucumber sandwich was an Anglican Bishop in Full SS Uniform.

Because 20 years have elapsed?

If only you had mentioned this before.

Keep me up like you did that sword

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Transfer visionary = has Disney Plus

If we had anything about us we'd immediately appoint the Wrexham manager. No other football club has ever been promoted before and they've done it because Wrexham Wrexham Wrexham vision vision Wrexham vision. But typical our club won't do it because we lack vision or something.

Rough night sleeping on the pavement on The Mall but we've made friends with a lovely family from Kettering and some absolute reprobates from Canada kept us laughing through the night. What a Blitz spirit down here and we've got a great spot so excited my facepaint keeps running