CB Fry

Today is the the day the government outline what no deal actually means. The ERG will soon learn it will not be all their dreams come true because the border will still have to be respected. They have all rejected the horrible old backstop so that means they will have to accept one of the alternatives like a border down the Irish sea instead. No deal doesn't make the problem go away. Which is kind of why David Davis sucked up the May deal yesterday. He can see what's coming, and he's thick as s hit.

I didn't say it took courage to vote. I said you were gutless.

But you were on this thread a lot before the vote and still here now. So yes, it is hard to understand. If you're not fussed, fine. My missus isn't fussed, she's sick of me watching the news all the time. Guess what, she still voted in the biggest decision this country has made since WW2. It's a football forum, go off and talk about football on another thread. You want to talk Brexit then your gutlessness will be brought up by me when I feel like it because it bears repeating and is relevant. Is that so hard to understand, even for you?

Yeah, it's pretty easy to go and vote but you still couldn't bring yourself to do it. Gutless.

Says the man who supported Brexit because he wanted to stick one over Management Consultants and Lobbyists like Goldman Sachs, the very people who will make an absolute killing out of the contracts and consultancy work that this uttetly pointless endeavour will throw up. Right on, sister. And the man who, let's never forget, spent months on this thread going on about sticking it to the man and then bottled the fu ck out of voting at all when the day came. You're an utter joke mate.

Yes, that is probably what keeps the ERG going, and they're right that parliament will struggle to coalesce around anything. The "No No deal" option will win tomorrow, which will change the game because it will send a message to the country. It gives a certainty of direction that UK businesses will not want to let go. UK big business have already pi ssed enough money away planning for no deal, I know the one I work for has and they are already fu cking furious about it. Shocking, pointless waste. Anyway, from that point, the issue will be forced and the ERG will see a load of things they really don't want to happen creeping up on them. And off they will run, into the arms of May's deal which actually is okay really when you think about etc etc.

Yeah, I don't think you understand what is actually happening. Not least because I named two MPs that are not members of the Labour party. Bless you for trying though x x

Once the house votes for no deal tomorrow then May's deal becomes by some distance the least worst option for the ERG. Better than a short extension Better than a long extension that the EU might demand Better than a revocation of A50 which could go to a commons vote as a last ditch attempt to stop actual no-deal Better than a General Election Better than a second referendum The ERG will vote for May's deal and call it their victory. As will Les and Guided Missile and everyone else posting Union Jacks and pictures of champagne flutes and singing the Great Escape tune and all the other sh it we will get on March 29th. The endgame I referred to yesterday is not about the ERG vs May. The endgame now is about the ERG stopping Anna Soubry and Chukka Umuna "winning". They will not let them win.

As long as the ERG move, then enough Labour MPs in leave constituencies will then see that the opportunity to "respect the will of the people" is there and will also follow, rendering the DUP irrelevant.

It's not over yet sunshine. I added another post saying that it might not happen at this round of votes, just that it would happen through the process. The ERG will vote this deal through once they feel the hot breath of no-Brexit down their necks. For now, they are still swinging their dicks about.

May's deal will make a comeback and the ERG will fall in line and swallow that fu cker whole. David Davis has sucked it right up already. No deal will be rejected tomorrow so the deal will be the least worst option left for the Brexiteers. They'll vote for it and claim it as a victory.

Read my post again sweetheart. I'm talking about a different, invasive internet policy currently being activated by our sovereign government. I'm sure you support it because democracy innit.

If you don't like internet censorship - and let's be honest, we all love knocking one out - then you're going to love the UK's new porn laws which seems to involve giving your passport number away to get on Redtube. Nothing to do with the EU though.

Maybe not today. But it will and when it does you'll claim it as a victory and on March 29th you'll be on this thread with your celebratory "independence day" horsesh it. See you then.

Endgame starts now. May has got her piece of paper with her "legal assurances" and everything. So the ladder for the hard Brexiteers to climb down is now there, this is as good as it gets. Make no mistake, they'll climb down, they'll swallow the fu cker whole and vote for the deal just to make sure Brexit happens. No peoples vote, no extension. They will bend over and by jingo they will take it right up em and say it tastes like Christmas cake. For about a day they will claim it as a victory, plus they'll have their little blue passport themed street party on 29th March. And then they will disown said deal the following day and then spend the next decade complaining about the EU and how badly they've treated us and they'd have definitely had done it better if only they were in charge.

It's problematic because it's not like all of those Spurs fans singing Yid Army are actually Jewish themselves so they don't actually have claim on the term.

Sorry I didn't realise all football chairmen must work to an aligned set of rules and assumptions so all their decisions are completely consistent with one another. That said, If you knew anything about Derby then you'd know that Mel Morris suffers no fools and is very quick to sack managers who, on the surface, are doing perfectly well. He likely would have binned the likes of Moore in no time. Lampard has got star power which counts for something but if they finish out of the top 6 then Derby sacking him would be entirely consistent with his previous decisions.

Looks harsh but WBA haven't won at home since Boxing day and they are clearly on the slide. Moore was never more than a glorified caretaker, a Steve Wigley type figure who got a bit of feel good factor and was lucky that it carried on into the early weeks of the new season. The longer he was in charge, the worse they got as he's just not got the knowledge/skills to take that kind of job on. Pretty laughable that some on this forum were drooling over him as the man to rejuvenate Saints. However, I think he should have been given the opportunity to take them to the play offs. It's a lottery and maybe they'd have snuck up. They'd better have a replacement planned and in otherwise it could backfire.

They've bottled phase one - automatic promotion is not happening now. However I'd say that they are nailed on for a play off place - even they can't screw that up now. So they can still get to Wembley and/or get promotion. So it's not over yet, although blowing automatic from where they were on New Year's Day is LOLtastic enough.

Alpine worked his magic yet again.

For God's sake can we at least get a point out of this game now, lads. Come on!

Quite. But mainly it's on us. There far far too many posts on here fannying on about what Brighton or Palace or Newcastle are doing, like they are all going to commit suicide to allow us to stay up. We really needed a point from the two games vs United/Spurs. So we could do with a point today which guarantees 17th for a couple of weeks.

Only if Cardiff win and we get nothing. All other clubs and results are irrelevant. It's us or Cardiff.

He won't go anywhere this summer.

Fulham are relegated. Even if they win today they are relegated. They aren't going to get 18-20 points in 9 games.