CB Fry

Bizarre.

He has failed in what I think was his first objective, still be in Europe in 2017. He came in as someone with European pedigree and who knows how to manage the 2 games a week schedule. He's failed in that - threw away the games in Israel and Prague and tonight was utterly dreadful. Dreadful - we had two realistic approaches to the game: win 2-0 or scrape a 0-0 and we decided on the infinitely more fuc kwitted option. Dreadful. He was a fair way from winning people over and now he's ten steps further back. Desperately need a win and some goals this weekend.

Anyone else's Sportsmania (on Kodi) gone down?

Long on. So here comes goals goals goals.

This is already unbearable.

I approve of this team.

You know this how?

Er, riiiiight.

It's barely been mentioned. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?t=57504

Not trying to be funny. Just quoting you being dismissive ("just slinging old mud") and your pertinently pointing out that he was acquitted. You've changed your angle now and that's great.

Read MLG's post again and tell me what's "completely, fundamentally wrong" about it. Take your time.

“There’s no contract on the table,” said Fonte. “It is what it is, there’s nothing on the table that I didn’t sign. There was nothing there, to be honest. There was in the summer, they offered me a pay rise. They didn’t offer me a new contract. “They offered me a pay rise which I’m entitled to discuss with my agent and entitled to say no to as well. I’m entitled to have my own opinion, so apart from that that’s it.” Jose makes the distinction between pay rise and new contract.

Just been on. We'll done Matty. I'm sure the club historian will be on here shortly saying it's just "slinging old mud" and reminding us that good old uncle Bob was acquitted and everything.

He has been offered a pay rise though.

The point is, he's not 3rd best. Objectively, factually, whatever measure you want, he isn't.

Not really about your opinion. He plays with our first choice back four in Premier League games when we play our strongest eleven. Objectively he is one of the two best CBs at the club.

Why would any club pay more than the minimum?

There's not been a decent source I've seen yet.

If it sets "the maximum fee we can ask for him", how do we then "take a much higher fee by setting bidders against each other"?

Jose not kicking a single ball in the Europa is by far the single most baffling thing about this campaign.

There's drivel and then there's drivel.

Profile piece plus thoughtful photo in the Saturday Guardian sport section? I'm in.

Not bad.

Done.I've got an insurance bet on Norwich away as well. That was on Facebook.

It's already been leaked on Twitter and it's Leicester away.