CB Fry

They aren't asking HNW individuals to dip into their pockets. They've got enough turnover to gamble on promotion. The "small difference" is what? I'd say one club was clearly bankrolled out of a division and the other is Pompey.

Please save us Saint George like you did last season. Please save us. Saint George please save us. Please save us. Please. Save us.

The point is that the Labour party of Ramsay MacDonald, Wilson, Kinnock, Brown, Blair, Milliband IS the Labour party. The idea that the "real" Labour party is the one exclusively represented by Corbyn and a cluster of hard left MPs is misguided. Corbyn has spent 30 years rebelling and fighting against the Labour party. He doesn't represent Labour any more than any of the other candidates. At least Michael Foot had the bo llocks to serve on the front benches, run government department and try and change lives. For 30 years Corbyn could have applied Labour thinking to opposition and government and he didn't.

Corbyn's election will be a great story. It's mainly that you can't expect the entire party membership to vote for its chief executive in this way. Of course this is notwithstanding the idiot MPs who let him on the ballot paper, which is the fundamental flaw and led to this mess. The Conservative process worked fine - get to two candidates that the parliamentary party are ostensibly happy to lead them - Davis or Cameron - and then let the membership vote. Either candidate was different but had enough to be a credible leader. A sensibly de-risked process. Being a leader of an organisation is not like winning a talent or popularity contest. The new Labour party leader actually has to chair meetings, lead a cabinet, agree strategy, sit down and talk to foreign leaders, find compromise, speak to business and civic leaders, review different perspectives, make decisions and drive them through, driving discipline in his team and party to stick to his vision etc etc. All at the same time articulate a vision for the future that will keep MPs in constituencies and maybe gain new ones. Nothing in his past suggests Corbyn is remotely capable of that. He's a stupid choice for leader, and the vote he is going to win is more of a vote on a "who reminds you the most of Tony Benn" competition. I think I may have made my point. He's going to win, so let's buckle down for the car crash ahead.

I don't think Pompey are doing that - they have gate receipts dwarfing the rest of the division and I'm not sure the HNWs have that much of a pot to pi ss in anyway. They might be gambling a bit but I don't see them being bankrolled. PS. You do realise your last sentence could easily describe the strategy of Southampton Football Club to get out of League One, right?

The Conservative party is just as likely to ignore the will of the people if they think they know better, don't really understand how you can level that as a particular Labour failing when it applies to the whole political class. (and I can't remember what persuasion you are. I'm not that much of a forum nutcase. Colin I recall one thing about you and it is the greatest protest against a football kit of all time.)

No idea what you're talking about. In 1997, 2001 and 2005 Labour won thumping majorities, far ahead of the last two Tory majorities twenty years either side. On a centre left social democratic platform. And the things you are getting so upset about the Tories taking away now and in the next five years were in lots of cases introduced by....now let me think...they were introduced by, hang on, who was it now, it was like in the late nineties and stuff, they were introduced by....oh now who was it....

It's a political opinion piece. Of course it has bias. You do realise when you read a positive piece on Corbyn that contains bias as well? You understand that, right?

Yes. I've got used to the idea of him winning because he won't get anywhere near 2020 - he will not be able to make enough compromises that any leader naturally has to make so will walk or be pushed. And if he refuses to compromise on anything the parliamentary party will remind him of his long history of rebellion himself and politely tell him to find f uck off back to the backbenches. So in 2017 or so we go again at which point the political landscape may well have changed, and we get a new Labour leader primed to take the Tories on and at least get close.

http://www.politico.eu/article/corbyn-calamity-labour-leadership-race-uk-blair-hamas-murdoch/ This is good, and by this is good I obviously mean it reflects my own view. .

Strange really, because I just thought it was unambitious clueless clubs run by dithering idiots pussy-footing around that signed players at the end of the transfer window. It seems a bit like every single fu cking club is doing it. It's a puzzler, that's for sure.

He makes some decent points and probably has a role to play but his leadership could put the party back twenty years.

Except Corbyn-mania is as vacuous a political movement as any in recent years. Not really much more than an empty vessel that has got a bit of a head of steam among some grass roots Labour activists and the Twitterverse. Corbyn is a blank canvas that a section people have projected their own aspirations on, desperate for some UK version of the Arab Spring or Greece's political earthquake. As much of a fad as anything in recent years. A fad for people who like to make out that they're definitely not shallow.

A leader might act like someone who makes some effort to lead teams, departments to achieve something either in opposition or government. A leader might learn how to negotiate, compromise and align in order to get things done. A leader might demonstrably show he can enthuse groups to achieve specific things. A leader of a political party might not have spent thirty years snug and unbothered on the back benches making no attempt to engage or participate in the leadership of his party or indeed the country. It doesn't take leadership to carp and rebel from the backbenches. It's pretty plain that he entered the leadership race for theoretical reasons, to have a debate and then shuffle off. Probably saw a book in it for him. I'm pretty sure he didn't see it like this and I'd suggest he is absolutely bricking it. If he wins he'll be looking for an excuse to quit "on principle" within two years.

Oh our aching sides.

Why would they come and why would we pay them to sit on the bench?

If Shane Long, Yoshida, Caulker, JWP and Reed etc are "average" then Southampton Football Club will always have average on the bench. Let's try and get used to it.

Well done on giving him one entire match.

But that's what we do. We're the sell-iest club of all the clubs that have ever sold players. Selly Sell-hampton the selling sellers they call us us because we sell sell and sell more than any club before since or ever to come. We sell, then we sell and we sell some more and then sell and sell and sell and sell and why can't we be Everton why can't we be Everton oh why can't we be Everton.

Did anyone say he was upgrade on Clyne. Lots of people complaining that he isn't an upgrade on Clyne. But then he was never going to be and expecting him to be (especially right now) is rather dopey.

Please save us Saint George like you did last season. Please save us Saint George please save us. Please save us.

Genuinely would surprise me more than Mane going to Manchester United.

Feel free to mention Everton at any point.

You really are going to post this every single day aren't you?

They will have to give us £25-odd million for him because we'd expect a profit and his contract is long, but UTD would need mad to pay that. He's great but not MUFC great just yet.