CB Fry

Apologies for belittling the contribution Elias, Prost and Jennings made in turning Luke Shaw into the world's most expensive teenager. They all left when when he was about twelve years old. Henderson sealed the absolute inevitability of his ticket to Rio by leaving Saints when Luke was a fully formed fourteen year old. Yep, it's me belittling contributions made in the development of our players. Yep, its me doing that. Sorry and everything. [edit: poor maths. point stands]

You don't understand how football academies work, if you're asking questions like that. It's not just a scouting machine where 8 year olds magic into premier league quality players just like that. In 2003 Shaw would have been 8. So the decade of development from a pre-secondary school child to the most expensive teenager ever is all down to George Prost and nothing to do with Les Reed who probably spoke to him at least every other day in the last five years. Nothing to do with our training programs, our pastoral care, our professional development, our over arching football development strategy, our coaches and physios. The only thing that is relevant is who happened to be the boss when he was an 8 year old child. Okay then.

1998? 16 years ago. When we were still at the Dell. 2003, more than ten years ago. Okay then. What players are you talking about here? In 2003 Luke Shaw would have been 8. Are you saying nothing the academy has done for Luke Shaw (or JWP, or Chambers) in the last five years (say between the ages of 13 to 18) made any difference to them, he would have magically turned into the players they are now regardless? Lowe did a good job with the acedemy but looks like that's Cortese's and Reed's credit for developing the academy down the the toilet. Pretty harsh.

This. Adam Lallana could have left with his head held high and with the support of most fans - but he blew it. For a 26 year old, he made far too many avoidable mistakes, effing the club off and also most fans. For a loyal (he was loyal) and key player throughout our rise to manage to get himself a one line cursory official goodbye from the club he served so well reflects very poorly on him. The affair was, however, the source of the meltdowners favourite anecdote, so I for one will be forever grateful that his phone calls went un-returned. Oh, the humanity.

Well, I don't. We're not Manchester United or Arsenal and never will be. Get over it.

I liked it when you had your little tantrum after the club had ruined your fun by winning some matches, making you grizzle about us only beating weak teams and it being too early to judge us in September. (Then admitting it wasn't too early for you to judge us when you were judging us six weeks earlier). Keep it up.

The only thing looking nailed on for the General Election is that the Lib Dems are going to be decimated, they will be in no coalition with anyone. Probably hold on to a handful of seats and be back to 1980s levels of 10/12 seats. Will be interesting to see if Clegg, propped up by student votes in Sheffield in 2010, keeps his seat. There's your 2015 "Portillo moment" right there.

Not sure what point you are trying to make either. Don't really see anything wrong with anyone trying to maximise their earnings from a job they do for as long as they are doing it. I've recently accepted a new job for more salary even though I could probably live perfectly well on my current salary so the reason for moving is not "valid" according to your measures. And then you move off players and on to money going elsewhere, with the suggestion that little tiny Saints can't compete. Except, of course, we are in the top ten richest clubs in the country and easily in the top 50 (probably 30) in the world. We are competing, we are in a league plenty of other clubs would kill to be in, and if we ever go down at some point we can steamroller other second tier clubs with wages and fees. We're well placed for Europe especially through winning a cup. We are competing big style. Enjoy it.

Quite the opposite. The club should build a commemorative fountain in their honour. Those heroes saved the club.

Is Robbie Fowler's property empire greed? Was Clyne greedy to go from Palace to a bigger contract with us? Jay Rod from Burnley? Gardos? Mane? All these players earning perfectly living wages so absolutely no need for them join us, especially as you expect them all to retrain and work until they are 70 like the rest of us. All greed really, isn't it.

So its okay by you for footballers to try earn as much as they can from non-football things like Robbie Fowler does but not okay for them to try and earn as much as they can from being paid for playing football? How does that work, then?

Any mention of the club rapidly changing strategy because Saint George and a select band of internet heroes decided to have a moan on this forum? Because that, like, definitely happened so would be unusual for Les Reed not to cover it.

That website, I imagine, must rank alongside the 9/11 "Great Resource" forum (In summary: "look at these weeping firemen in this clip, what fu cking sh it actors" ) in the pantheon of Paps interwebworld of open minded free thinking evidence based analysis.

I'm definitely telling my grandchildren about my last three posts.

I did about six minutes. I liked the bit when, while trying to sound, like, all scientific when analysing the trajectory of "the ball" he decided to say "so to start with, I've made a couple of assumptions" Yes mate. You have. You definitely have.

Yes, yes, yes but it is a conspiracy that goes to the very top of the British establishment and everything and no mistake. You can't argue with a four hour video made by a man who thinks it's libel to say the 7/7 attacks were NOT faked.

Me and my meltdowns, eh? What am I like.

Except, of course, he doesn't "state that" at all.

It doesn't show anything of the sort. Morgan didn't want to leave because the club was in turmoil, he wanted to leave because he wanted to go to Tottenham. And Morgan's supposed perception that the club was in turmoil doesn't mean it actually was. The fact that Spurs only offered £10m is a far more significant variable than either a) fan unrest or b) supposed turmoil in keeping Morgan here. Nice try.

Well, no. What do you think the overriding theme of the press conference questions for Pochettino ahead of a game vs Southampton could possibly have been? And Lallana clearly taking the opportunity of being off Liverpool duty to ham-fistedly cover himself, especially as he got slaughtered by the same newspaper over the weekend. Not really a conspiracy, TDD.

That clearly was a harrowing experience for him, as Crab Lungs told us. I imagine he is still suffering post-traumatic stress and has been advised not to speak of it in public lest the wounds rip open again. I mean. His phone calls didn't get returned. Oh, the humanity.

He did nothing. Nothing whatsoever. Apart from trolling this forum.

This is straight out of the Delldays school of trying to point score against a completely imaginary foe. If there was pi ss takes and mockery on this forum last season it was not against players, who can say what they like, but against forum geniuses who thought we had a one way ticket to the Champions League because we had a "vision" of how to get there. It was proven easily that "vision" was a fairy tale and only the forum's biggest saps ever actually believed it, wetting their little pants over the "ask not if... but how" guff our short Italian friend came out with. We were never going to reach the Champions League under Cortese and it is 99.9% certain we won't under this regime. And even if we did finish 4th once, we won't become CL regulars. Not going to happen, and so what? It's fine by me. But players in interviews aspiring to do as well as they can was fine last season and it is fine this season. A different player can say we're going to finish fourth every single week for all I care. Go for it lads.

What a sweet little comment. Worth pointing out the small fact that Morgan Schneiderlin is not a bellyaching din on a football forum. He is a Southampton footballer who during the summer wanted to leave the club for a nice fat contract somewhere else, didn't, and is now giving post-rationalisation interviews in light of him staying.

I do like the way Pap always references Richard D Hall's name in connection with that video, as if that name lends the film credence or gravitas. There is certainly a sense of awe when Pap drops his name. One Google search on Richard D Hall, and here's the very first search result. Ladies and gentlemen, Richard D Hall. Email sent by Richard D. Hall to Prime Minister David Cameron on 1/10/2014 Dear Mr Cameron, In your recent U.N. speech you said, "The peddling of lies: that 9/11 was a Jewish plot and the 7/7 London attacks were staged" In this statement, regarding the 7/7 bombings you are accusing me and thousands of British people of being liars. This is a demonstrably libellous statement. I challenge you to a public debate on a subject which you have brought to light, which is, "were the London bombings a staged event?". Having made such statements, you surely should back up the statements with evidence, and then be challenged on your evidence in public. If you do not debate this issue in public and with those you accuse of being liars, then your actions are that of a dictator. I await your response, Richard D. Hall