CB Fry

You do realise these people didn't return Adam Lallana's phone calls over the summer? Absolute scum.

What bit of hypo saying "the two things are unrelated" did you not understand? He's pretty weak on media interviews. I think that viewpoint is permissable on this forum without it buried under an avalanche of yet-again assessments of the summer. Hint: we know.

Interesting the Yes campaign upset about the announcements from the banks because they are "politically motivated". Well, yeah. The banks are saying that stuff because they don't want to see a yes vote. And unless I am very much mistaken, the whole effing campaign is politically motivated, isn't it?

Absolutely what I was getting at. Funnily enough I had a media training session yesterday as I am representing my company at an event with Journos in attendance next week. Basic messaging structure/control of conversation etc. Look, if that is all our chairman is getting wrong then we don't have much to worry about. It is, however, the thing I thought he would actually be good at.

If any other manager is going to do just as well/as badly then doesn't really matter that they've sacked him does it.

Well, he doesn't and he says as much. What's your point?

Fair play, that Solent interview was a dreadful ramble from Krueger. For a supposed motivational speaker he struggles to be coherent.

A defeat or two and he'll be back.

In retrospect, the act of balls-out panic might just work for undecided voters. Showing that "we" really do want them to stay might just plant a seed in the heads of non-political Scots that says that maybe, maybe this is all too much of a risk. If they care this much, there must be something in this union. It's unedifying for Cameron and Co but it could do the business after all. Plus, as mentioned yesterday, Salmond being a smug pri ck is a great recruiter for the No campaign.

Just call me Yoda.

Through work, have encountered these guys doing clever stuff with a shipping container on a roof of a shopping centre in Stratford, currently working on scaling up to a commercial level. Pretty impressive people, if you like social/sustainable enterprise types. Could work nicely in Millbrook... http://www.growup.org.uk

"We desperately want you to stay" sayeth the PM apparently in the Daily Mail in the morning. Interesting choice of words. Dear me, they have ballsed this right up.

I think we should hope he plays really well for us, we finish eighth and win a cup.

That's one of the many things that I think Salmond has covered off with his catch-all "don't worry, everything will be exactly the same" routine.

The No campaign need Salmond to keep acting like that. Give him a Kinnock moment where he is caught celebrating before the event.

The thing about Bletch's stuff was it was nicely observed, and funny.

I've destroyed your relentless pie eyed garbage every freaking week on this forum for five years or more. Never stopped you coming back, has it choccy?

Stop arguing with Alpine's son.

I think my post is pretty self explanatory. We have won the hardest fixture in the group. We will do enough to finish second easily, we will probably win the group.

Not really. We will walk this group.

At the point of decision I can see why he decided on forcing Salmond into the apparent corner of a straight Yes/No and no devo max third way. That way would have been a dull campaign for sure but Cameron would still be the loser, just earlier. He would have slaughtered for a cheap concession Would have kept the union though. So yes/no was the right call. It's the campaign that they have totally ballsed up. When Alistair Darling is the best you have then you're in trouble - he's a decent politian, more likeable than some but nowhere near dynamic enough to sell the union. It's not easy, because the other team have a simpler articulation of hopes and dreams and fluffy futures to reel off, but it was possible to do a better job than they have.

For someone so anti- this thread even existing you ain't half going on about it.

It's not the Lib Dems who will bring Cameron down on this issue - they will respect the result and the process etc etc etc - it's the Tory party. Knives Out, as the happening pop group Radiohead might say. Edit: sorry I see you have already assumed a Cameron exit. Could be an early poll if it happens quickly. It won't be allowed to limp along, I'd say.

A yes vote is going to stir up some real sh it. Will be an absolutely fascinating time in our history. I can see a significant push - UKIP/Daily Mail will start it but I think they, for once, will have a point - for some kind of referendum in England/rest of UK on the currency union and all the other constitutional stuff non one has really thought about because they thought No was nailed on (fair play, I did). There will be a sizeable cross-party feeling that the Scots can't just decide the future of the union alone. The rest need a say too. And whatever option on the ballot paper is close enough to "suck my balls Salmond" will win by a landslide. Cuba-style currency here you come. And Cameron will go down in history. His was looking like a pretty unspectacular premiership but blimey he's carving himself a right chapter now.

It's me who is the angry one, right?