Nolan

Indeed it would, but a deal "under any circumstances" doesn't lead to a good deal. We would not be the only ones to be economically hit by a no deal, so we have to be willing to use that to get to an amicable arrangement. But there comes the crunch, I don't mind the economic hit. I was told lots of times that it would be horrendously detrimental, it hasn't been, and soon we'll get our independence back.

"Is there any deal imaginable that could be worse than WTO rules?"

When the question should be. "Is there any deal that could be worse than WTO rules?" And the answer to that is yes.

as obvious in the thread of this. I'm giving an example of what a bad deal, that is worse than no deal looks like.

Pray tell. How am I bigoted? Let me spell this out for you. DEAL: WTO trade rules and lose gibralter NO DEAL: WTO trade rules. Which would be worse: deal? Or no deal?

No deal is better than a bad deal. That's always been obvious to anyone with half a brain. Would a union take a bad deal over no deal?

Exactly, yet we don't know if any of the EU 27 net receivers are willing to become net contributors in the new EU reality.

Then the EU need to tell us what they think or obligations are and stop asking us what we're willing to pay. And maybe define what they think "sufficient progress" is

The EU27 have said that they will not start taking about trade until "sufficient progress" has been made. Hence the EU 'negotiating team' constantly saying "sufficient progress" has not been made. Even though things like continuation of the EHIC were agreed upon in the last week.

Sorry, didn't know swearing was mandatory.

Liebherr 'middle ground'? Sheesh.

Someone actually has ITK has part of their twitter handle? How thick are they?

So neither Hojbjerg, Stephens or as he has sometimes, Davis couldn't play there alongside Lemina?

I think all of us would like to watch him play

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpool-transfer-news-virgil-van-dijk-corners-set-pieces-goals-conceded-jurgen-klopp-problem-issue-a7892346.html There you go...

You're right, why not buy a defender who is good at defending set pieces?

What's deluded is that a team with a poor record in defending set pieces wants a defender from a team with a worse record in defending set pieces. But hey ho.

I'm sorry, there's no way that the board will facilitate more of the "*player* will be joining Liverpool in 12 months" comments that appear after every one of our signings. I do not believe VVD to Liverpool will happen.

Don't believe a telegraph article is accurate unless it's written by Jeremy Wilson.

I would have a problem with release Clauses. You can't legislate for, say someone like Kyle Walker suddenly being worth 53 million and a sudden escalation of value.

I thought general concensus was Hoedt came in to play the left of a centre back three so we could play 3 5 2 formation.

@garethcambridge is a poor fake agent. He even had tweets published on newspaper sites under his former guise "captain clueless".

Person from Southampton in Liverpool wind up Shocker...

So exactly the same as the Conservatives then.... Weird.

To u2's elevation Hoooo-ooooooot, Hoooo-ooooooot Of southampton