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I think people see him as a better option than crisp packet hands Baz. Sometimes that enough....

And yet, that's exactly what he chose last summer. Maybe you missed it?

Did somebody say, 'Just Eat'?

Apparently Palace have been demoted to the conference for breaking the multi club rule...

Maybe not. But in Glasgow it's called "breakfast".

Apparently he's not actually a poundshop Roger Mellie but is a creepy sex pest because he has autism. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx24lxl85wyo

The beer or the German barmaid?

Yep, definitely not grasped the issue! If we get promoted this season, it will be job done - well done, you've got that bit. The issue is we will have Cap't Jack tied down to two more years of contract whilst we are in the PL - a league where we already know he is of no use, so will be paying his wages for doing fuck all. We could have achieved the same result (with Stephens in the team THIS year), without giving another 2 years contract extension. I didn't think this was rocket science, but looks like it's too tricky for some.

I don't believe any one has claimed that giving Stephens a contract extension means we aren't aiming for promotion. I guess you misunderstood that line, not unusual for you. To explain it for you, by aiming for promotion this season it means will could 'potentially' be playing PL football for the full two years of his contract extension (a league in which we know he isn't suitable). Does that clear it up for you? Jump in with two feet ✅ Add some whataboutery ✅ Next up the laughing emoji 🤣for a full house.

'Potentially' 2 years doesn't mean 'guaranteed'. Jumping in with both feet again without thinking. However, if promotion isn't our number 1 ambition this season, then I'd seriously question those running the club.

Maybe you missed the point that no one is complaining about 'now' (although I'm sure there wouldn't have been many complaints if he'd moved on this summer), the issue is the TWO FUCKING YEAR EXTENSION, keeping him at the club for potentially 2 years when we are in the PL, no matter what league we may be in 'now'. Not giving him the extension would still have meant he would be a reasonable back up for the league we are in 'now'.

So to clarify, you think extending Stephens contract for another TWO years is a good idea because : He's a 'useful' squad player, but he has his limitations and his abilities really aren't that great. He has a clear leadership role within the group - the group that had the second worst PL record ever, conceding an extraordinary amount of goals and had a failry obvious lack of discipline and motivation. He has an air of authority - but as above, presumably not enough. He shouldn't be in the starting line up as there are better options, but he would be fine sitting on the bench. Not sure your dogged determination to back him is quite the 'zinga' you think it is in your head - after all, you can't even summon up a glowing reference for him yourself! All of the points you mention as being 'useful' would still have existed until 2026 without giving him a 2 year extension....

Really? Which of our young players were helped last season - even Dibling fell off a cliff in the second half of the season and he was being 'helped' by Lallana and Cap'n Jack!

Weren't similar things said about Lallana last season? Didn't work out too well.

I'm sure they will. Probably get the pots and pans out on Thursdays as well.

I agree that the settlement was correct last year. My point was that the agreement last year was supposed to put them back on track - and was agreed as such by the union and its members. Therefore the award for this year should have been voted through (I think it was meant to be somewhere in the region of 4% recommended?), so striking and demanding 29% is taking the piss and will only damage the NHS. Unless that's the plan - strike now, build up a backlog, then enjoy the lucrative overtime to clear it?

The moral of the tale is we have to put up with an awful lot of shit before we polish one of the turds - oh and a couple of relegations thrown in!

From what I can see we are now back in the same boat, so : Do we need to resolve the current pay issue? Will that involve giving more cash? Are these both still a 'yes' despite the pretty hefty rise doctors are currently looking for - and if so, why, as wasn't last year's increase meant to put everything 'back on track'?

What is happening to our country? Some moron has declared that 'hand massaged kale' is not only a 'thing' but is necessary in society! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyxnxenl2ro

🤣🤣🤣 Haven't we thought the same about endless players who have also been young, hungry and guaranteed to improve. I hope he does well, but I'm mindful of our recent track record.

We've worn it out.

Which is a wonderful sentiment. However, cap'n Jack has been influencing off the pitch for the whole of last season with the worst team in history and a piss poor team ethos. Maybe he's not up to the job of influencer?

Oh joy.

There are specific forums for that, this isn't the right place

Does a 'top club' (ranked 2 of 2!) in Scotland count as a 'top club'?