Saint George

Sooner they dump the whole thing the better...This could have been a perfect oportunity to create a 'professional' looking crest to replace the hideous school kid designed 'thing' we've been stuck with since the 70's Hate it...its pathetic

That's good then...at least you're safe in the knowledge that after Duncan and Co have seen off BA and the rest. It will only be a matter of time before they uproot again and come crawling back, just like all the others

Instead of being a 'winging pom' ........Maybe you, Duncan et el, should ask your selves 'why' are companies Outsourcing in the first place? Lemme give you a hint.......The over inflated and grossly over protected British workforce offer little 'value', when compared to work forces of a lot of other Nations......Until peeps recognize this fact and do something about it, Companies are going to continue to be tempted into Outsourcing more and more... You complain about some of the problems faced when companies 'Outsorce' and yet it's still a better option than employing localy...That tells you everything you need to know right there. Make it an easier decision for a company to employ 'locally' and most will.........Adopt a 'Duncan' like attitude and kiss your jobs goodbye. 'Fraid to say it really is as simple as that

Going to be interesting to watch the 'fall out' in the markets tomorrow from this little debacle, Seat belts on nice and tight folks...........So how low can it go? Hope all you 'anyone but the Tory's' think it was all worth while

In Britain?.....Fat chance of that.....Can't think of a Democratic Government that's further removed from the 'will of the people' than the current UK set up...Both Central 'and' Local....Blair destroyed the the 'honor' system and Gordie's doing a Great job of making sure it's well and truly dead and buried. Besides, Westminster's hands are pretty much tied these days......The real power is shared between the unelected British Quangos, 'and' the unelected Brussels Quangos. Basically you'll do what they tell ya and like it....and fraid to say there ain't a damned thing you can do about it.

The OP forgot to mention the most important thing Bankrupted the Country! Any idiot can go on a 12 year mega spending spree, throwing money they don't have at anything they fancy.......Now it's time to pay the bill!....ugh you cant afford it?.....oh dear......Good luck when the bailiffs start arriving at the door in the next few years. Greece's problems are going to seem like bit of loose change when the bill for 12 years at Nanny's teat lands on the table....It well exceeded the income from Tax payers years ago, the rest was just debt.....add to that the fact the Nanny State has bred half a Nation of 'cant do's' and you're left with the whole debt burden falling on the shoulders of what is now a small minority.....I can't see many 'wealth generators' hang around for that either

Sounds to me that someone's getting a little worried that Nannys teat's about to dry up....not surprising really.....What with half a Nation suckling at it for so long.

and there lies one of the biggest problems in politics.....'Ignorant allengiances' To many peeps see supporting their 'Party' in the same way as supporting their Soccer team..."Labour till i die" and all that...Even after the horendous last 12 years, there's peeps out there, who are going to vote for the 'final nail' because "it's Labour innit"

Great bit of Socialist re distribution of wealth there....Can anyone explain, why it is that tax payers are expected to directly contribute towards the raising of every other Tom, **** and Mohammed's kids?....If you can't afford to have kids then don't have them.....A good lesson in 'accountability' there. Had completely forgotten about those infamous 'Great British, Tax Payer funded, Baby making machines'. Heh.....Only in Britain do peeps plan to have kids, so they can be financially better off. graphic by *_deuce_*

hmmmm...I wonder who said this just a couple of weeks back... "I wasn't branding people for disagreeing with me, but rather for having intolerant attitudes." Nice to see the ohhhh so tolerant 'Left,' alive and well....'Hypocrites', "Bigot" branders and apologist's, all nailed to the same glorious 'red flag' in just two days..... And as the once great ship 'Britannia' continues it's voyage with a near uncorrectable List to Port. Half the crew and passengers are still running to that very side to set up their deck chairs....Ooops...didn't do the 'risk assessment'...silly peeps. Keep it up y'all, this is great stuff....Kinda like watching the 'Titanic' movie all over again....Great entertainment, but so sad it's for real. Hope some of you make it off ok graphic by *_deuce_*

I think this just goes to prove what I've been saying on here for a long long time....Most peeps have condemned the BNP outright, without even reading their manifesto. As soon as anyone mentions the "BNP" everyone squeals "Fascist's" with out having a clue what they're actually standing for. One thing's for sure...Neither Labor or the Tories in their current form, are gunna pull y'all out the deep deep sh#t and reclaim some of the liberties and freedom y'all gave away so easily.

Peeps should realize that Cortese giveth us Marcus......and Cortese can taketh away again Short sighted and blinkered Saints fans screwed this Club over once in it's history...lets not make twice eh?

So just who was it that "died" in the name of "trolly dollies" having the unquestionable right to work for BA?......Am i missing something here?

Hey, no one ever said US health care was cheap...far from it, the system here is far from perfect and unfortunately the glaringly obvious fixes are being completely missed by Chairman 'O', who seems to be hell bent on trying to screw it up even more. But none the less, in the real world, most areas the NHS do not even come close to being able to provide the level of health care and service that's available over here and yes, you would probably have to look at least doubling the funding for the NHS before you can even start to compare like for like. Now to clear up a couple of misconceptions that have typically appeared on this thread It's Federal law that emergency services respond to a call and take a patient to the nearest Emergency Hospital, regardless of insurance status or ability to pay. It's also Law that the Hospital treats the patient until they reach a stable condition and can be safely discharged or transported to a Hospital of their choice. (there's that word again)Again, regardless of insurance status or ability to pay. You 'can' get insurance for life long pre existing conditions...Sure, it's a little restrictive in so much as you will need to be in a employers group scheme and maybe have to wait a maximum of one year for the pre existing conditions to be included.......Not so for the self employed or personal insurance though.....Although that's one of the very few worthwhile things that Chairman 'O's health care reform will be putting right if it goes through. Medicaid and Medicare take care of the Retired, that's where much of the cost that Buctootim mentions in this post stems from......very few peeps have to "worry" about health care during retirement As for Canada?....Hell, when things get bad or they just want first class treatment, they just come over here for their health care "I did not sign away my right to get the best possible health care for myself when I entered politics." So i guess at the end of the day, it all comes down to freedom of choice...or the ability to even have that 'choice'......That's something i for one am not prepared to trade for anything....Make no mistake, a huge Tax burden is also a huge loss of liberty and freedom. "people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both"

Oh it's very true for 'most' peeps.....Let's just have a look at even the couple of extreme cases you're putting up for an example of the fine things about the Nanny System in the UK. $2,400 per month for World class health care for a family of four? Man, someone seen you guys coming. Decent health care insurance is available for way less than that...... But even so, how much would it cost in Employer's and Employee's NI contributions for the same couple with the same income to receive near Third World health care in the UK?....Not to mention any Private health care plans they would have to have in place to ensure that they could actually get treated should they ever fall sick.....Even then, they could still find them selves having to pay to come to the US or go to Germany to get the best treatment for anything really bad. As for school cost's.....If you wouldn't want to send your kids to a State School here, there's 'no way' you would be prepared to send your kids to a State Comprehensive School in the UK ....no way on this earth....So you cant add School cost's here and not do the same for the UK If your example couple really can't live on a joint income of $120,000 then they have some serious issue's...But there again both the families you hold up as examples live in the most Left wing areas of the US, outside bankrupt California...Hell, New Yorkers pay almost as much tax as you guys do in the UK!.......So no surprise there then. At the end of the day whether the sums end up higher or lower, the fact still remains that low taxes means more 'personal 'choice' for the individual.....We traditionally don't have a Nanny taking 'our' money and spending it how 'they' think is best us......I for one, wouldn't have it any other way......I can no longer even imagine anymore, paying $7.50 for a gallon of Gas...or 17% Sales Tax, or Road Tax, or Speed Camera Tax, or TV Tax.....Ugh, brings back nightmares just thinking about it........ No way!

$80?....That's about right if you don't have insurance.....It's generally $10 - $20 co pay for most peeps with insurance..........You pay's your money and take your choice....Nany's not going to come bail you out with someone else's money over here.....Although there are plenty of Charity options where peeps 'choose' to help. Did he think he was still living in the UK or something? or just decided that he didn't need insurance?.......If he took that chance, then he needed to be prepared to accept the consequences of paying his medical bills in full....no good crying about it after......Mind you, if $80 is his sole medical expense for this year, he's doing pretty good....that's less than 1 weeks NI contribution for most peeps in the UK.....Man, he'll be up by $$$thousands$$$ by the end of the year at that rate.

So just who is taking the p*ss here?......Yup that's very nearly 200% tax! As for the Gas it's self....30p Ltr....That's less than half the price of most bottled water.......So just how much cheaper do you expect the Oil Companyies to sell their product? Hell, they're already nearly giving it away as it is.....heh, and even if they did, it would still cost you around 80p Ltr to put that 'free' gas in your car...go figure http://www.petrolprices.com/price-of-petrol.html

Can't understand why y'all are complaining so much ....Crude Oil is still fairly cheap at around $80 a barrel.....Gas is around $2.55 a gallon(US) here and not much different in most places in the world. It's just you guys 'choose' to pay a sh$t load more 'tax' on your Gas (56.2p per Ltr + 17% VAT) than most other places...In fact thats more in 'tax' than the total price paid at the pump here. Rethink the reasons for the 'tax' and you too can have reasonably priced Gas! But there again, it's probably easier to live in ignorance and just blame the "Greedy" Oil Companies

Take a Jet BLue down to New Orleans.....won't get more contrasting than that....It'll blow your socks off!

Just got back from the parade.......un freaking believable...New Orleans regularly host's parades with 100k + on the streets, I thought i'd seen it all with with some of the 'Super Krewes' during Mardi Gras.....But this was something else...must have been close to a million!!!..... seriously!!!!!! The whole freaking city for miles and miles just became one giant parking lot from around noon today cars just parked and abandoned anywhere...on sidewalks, neutral grounds, hatched area's...anywhere ...just glad i only live a couple of blocks from the route heh And that trophy sure looked sweet in Coach Payton's hands.....heh, i dont think he's let it go since it was handed to him on Sunday WHO DAT!!!

Thats all i have to say about that! Totaly drained Super Bowl parade of all Super Bowl parades tomorow at 5pm cst...live on CNN for any one who can get it....The top Mardi Gras krewes are all contributing with there signature floats....it'll be a little bit special...anyone who's experienced Mardi Gras in New Orleans before will get the picture “It will be, in a way that only New Orleans can do,” WHO DAT!!!!

The Maid of Orleans (Joan of Arc) is ready to help lead the Who Dat Nation to Victory! Lets Do This WHO DAT!!!! Off to paaaaarrrtyyyy!

heh, Sounds like a plan.....BTW the following year the Super Bowl is in New Orleans....so we can arrange an exchange scheme

heh this last two weeks has been unreal, don't want it to end.....Not sure even 'winning' it, will top to the last couple of weeks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugV6gcXGPwk http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/travel/2010974145_weborleanssuperbowl03.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DGI-gecW2c&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A68MtCWZ-Gs&feature=player_embedded

Well, New Orleans held a little party in memory of Buddy last Sunday. As Buddy unfortunately couldn't make his appointment to march down Poydras St in a dress, Bobby Herbert, the ex Saints Quarterback carried the mantle on his behalf....As did half of New Orleans!......some 80,000 - 100,000 peeps turned out to help fulfill Buddy's promise. http://www.wwl.com/pages/6251386.php? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAoBbGqccV0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjlVLL3Vlq0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3G5V9oTy0w&feature=related http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2010/02/true_new_orleans_saints_fans_b.html Buddy had hanging in his studio for 15 years with a sign above it saying...."In case of Saints making the Super Bowl" There aint no place like NOLA Baby! WHO DAT!!!