Matthew Le God

Jonjo Shelvey was sold to Liverpool in a deal reported to be worth up to £5m. At the time, Charlton Athletic were desperate for cash to avoid administration, Shelvey was still only a bit part player for them in League One. Yet people happy to see Chamberlain sold by a financially very secure club for as little as £4m or even £1m!? Unlike Charlton, Saints aren't desperate for cash and are in a stronger position in the negotiations. Chamberlain recently signed a 3 year deal, he may have 15 years left as a professional for any new club, Saints will spend on players regardless of if he is sold or not. It therefore makes no business sense to sell him unless the bid is absolutely huge. If true that the top English clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool think he has the potential to play for their first teams then it is clear they think highly of him and is very valuable indeed. I'm glad none of you lot are running Saints and selling players like Chamberlain for £1m - £4m.

David Prutton - Was released on a free by Saints. The others were all sold when the club needed money. The club no longer needs money from player sales and is spending money on bringing in players. If the current players see that the club is progressing and for the first time in 125 years the owners are investing in the club, they will be more likely to stay.

Why is it unbelievable? Kenny Jackett was looking for attacking players and he could see that Jason Puncheon wasn't playing for Saints as Chamberlain was being preferred.

Dropping out of the first choice starting XI also played a factor. Chamberlain has been more effective, Puncheon 7 years older wouldn't like to play second fiddle. Holmes ( until the inevitable injury) and Dickson/Harding provide cover out wide for the small number of games between Puncheon leaving and the January window opening.

Well, that was the question you asked. So you knew the answer already...

Cortese and Adkins have both said it.

Why can't you say he is better? It is impossible at the moment for Chamberlain to play in the Championship, Premiership, Champions League etc because he is at Saints in League One. That doesn't mean people can't see he has attributes that make him better at the same age, even if he is playing against League One players.

But if the club is going to spend money anyway, why would it need £3m for Chamberlain? So to say "regardless of the situation with the Liebherr family" is bizarre.

Why are you so sure Saints wouldn't? Every season in the Premier League at St Mary's averaged over 30k, including the relegation season of 2004/05 (30,610). That was for a poor team lacking anything in the way of investment in its 119 year (at that point) history. With... - a team challenging in the top 10 of the Premier League - investment in the players - a larger stadium allowing for more flexible pricing structures - larger numbers of away fans in a larger St Mary's ...and I think averages of 40k+ are entirely possible.

Liverpool in the 2nd tier... 1955 - 36k 1956 - 37k 1957 - 35k 1958 - 38k 1959 - 36k 1960 - 30k 1961 - 29k 1962 - 39k

Spurs have a ground only 3,000 bigger than St Mary's, yet are competing in the Champions League. Money can make a big difference and Spurs have spent heavily. I'm sure Cortese is more than aware of the levels of finance it would take to compete at such a level. He would also be aware of whether or not he has those kinds of finances available to him before making such statements to fans at the dinner. Of course without heavy investment it wouldn't happen. But with investment I don't see why you think it isn't possible. Nothing coming from the club at the moment suggests that they aren't investing heavily for the future. For example the circa £5m spent on staff transfers in the last 18 months despite being in the 3rd tier and the multi million pound plans for the training ground.

But do these other chairman have the funding that Cortese has? Pointless having dreams if you don't have the resources, it "seems" like Cortese may have the resources. Why is a 40k stadium unrealistic for Saints? Every year in the Premier League at St Mary's averaged over 30k and that was for a team that had little invested in it. If the team is successful 40k+ crowds are easily achievable for Saints. Just going back to the original post in this thread, it still hasn't been explained how his colleagues account is lifted word for word from Spudguns account of the meeting a few weeks ago.

Norwich and Leeds squad aren't much different to their League One squads from last season. The Championship is quite a poor league really, not much of a jump from top of League One to the upper reaches of the Championship.

First floor plans of the main building now available on council website... http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_41.pdf Previously they just had the ground floor. Ground floor of main building http://web3.newforest.gov.uk/images/planningimages/161300_39.pdf

It is save game compatible. But for best results it is advised to start a new game.

Changelist found here... http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/244994-Patch-11.2-Now-Released!?p=6269054&viewfull=1#post6269054

Released at 4pm this afternoon... http://www.footballmanager.com/index.php?p=patches Please remember; only apply the 'Disc' versions of the patches to the relevant disc versions of the game. The Mac eSellerate version will only work with the Mac eSellerate game; it will not work with the Mac Disc version. You do not need to download a version of this patch for STEAM as it will auto-update itself. Doing so manually may cause issues with your version of Football Manager 2011.

When you take agents fees, player signing on fees etc into account, Saints probably spent close to £3m to sign both of them. To sell them on for £3m a year later just isn't going to happen. I imagine another fanciful story from The Sun led to this being released... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2244943,00.html

When you take agents fees, player signing on fees etc into account, Saints probably spent close to £3m to sign both of them. To sell them on for £3m a year later just isn't going to happen. I imagine another fanciful story from The Sun led to this being released... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2244943,00.html

Good thing he signed a professional contract at Saints a month ago.

Regular updates from the match found here... http://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/page/News/0,,10266~2243557,00.html

How does that make the Daily Mail wrong? I don't like to defend the Daily Mail but... their article on 3rd December says the two players will be sold IF they don't sign a new deal. Then 8 days later Speroni signs a new deal. So it certainly doesn't show the Daily Mail to be wrong.

Only foreign clubs in January can sort out deals with players with expiring contracts in England. English clubs can't talk to Lallana about it until 6 weeks before his contract expires at the end of June.

Plan A was 442 with lack of movement and didn't work. Plan B was Chamberlain upfront on the shoulder of the last man, Lambert playing deeper, Guly and Lallana on the wing and Hammond making runs/Schneiderlin in a holding role and it didn't work. Plan C was to bring Connolly on for 10 minutes and didn't work.

I'd say every 4 weeks.