Matthew Le God

Because all the bits in the centre come from the 1885 badge.

Could you post a photo of it so we can see what shade of red it is? I'd guess it will have faded over 125 years but still gives an idea.

Yep, that one is obvious hence why it was an example. What else will they come up with I wonder?

I forgot things like the TV gantry means some blocks in the Kingland have less rows than others.

Let's predict what type of things they may sing at us and try to think of some witty replies. For example... Pompey chant "Premier League and you ****ed it up" Saints return with...?

As long as you are in a central block in the Itchen or Kingsland, sitting towards the back gives the best view of the match.

The back row varies from block to block.

Mustaches should be made compulsory next season for all players!

Who? Also Thomas won't start ahead of Otsemobor nor will Lallana be upfront. Watching them train yesterday gives a good idea as to who will start.

Interesting to see they couldn't agree which shoulder to have the sash over!

Interesting to see they couldn't agree which shoulder to have the sash over!

So along the lines of post 3 of this thread?

In 1985 Saints had that badge for 11 years out of 100. Not exactly commemorative of 100 years.

I like that. Email it to the club.

It is for one season.

What is your argument against the sash? It is a one year commemorative kit. Will be back to stripes in 2011.

My point is the badge has the look of an amateur design from the 70's. Which is exactly what it was. A fan competition to design a badge in 1974. The club is 125 years old. The current badge has only existed for 36 years of those 125 years. For 89 years Saints didn't have that cartoony monstrosity! So history is no excuse for the badge to remain. The club could do better, for a start the 1885 badge looks a lot better and you can't get more traditional than using the first badge.

It is a one off, one season kit. Why do you have an issue with that? It will be back to red and white stripes in 2011. You can't get more traditional in celebrating 125 years than wearing the kit you first wore in 1885. btw Crystal Palace didn't start wearing red/blue until the 1970's and Leeds didn't play in white until the 1960's.

It is a one year anniversary kit. It would go back to stripes from 2011 onwards. It is 125 year anniversary and you don't get much more traditional than wearing the first kit you ever wore 125 years ago. As for your point about recent Saints kits always being stripes. The most successful decade in the league was that of the 1980's and Saints didn't have stripes from 1980 to 1989. I think that is recent.

Original or current?

The 1980 to 1985 kits you refer to had one white stripe, that isn't plural "stripes". I wouldn't say Ajax played in red and white stripes. 1985 to 1987 Saints had NO white stripes at all. http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Southampton/images/southampton_1985-1987.gif

A pre match and half time song over the PA system... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yKdGWXTUG4 Lets petition the club to get it played!

We need a petition for that to be played in the build up to the game and at half time.

It is for one season ffs It will go back to red and white stripes afterwards.

I doubt Umbro would do the three stripe detail on the sash. Makes it look like an Adidas kit!