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I should have used Stalin, Pol Pot or some other nightmarish dictator who demands constant worship and fear to compare God with! 😉

Not when it is clear cut. - 100% kind and loving - Slave endorsing in Exodus 21 There is no wiggle room for excuses if you think there is no conflict or contradiction between the two. It is clearly moronic to think endorsing slavery doesn't make a difference to being 100% kind and loving.

So what? The burden of proof is on a person making a claim. I was not making a claim... he was.

If they believe a 100% kind and loving god is compatible and not a contraction with the slavery endorsing God of Exodus 21... then yes they morons.

The switch was used to point out that it is not arrogant. Not sure how you struggle grasp that. 100% kind and loving and endorsing slavery is incompatible. It is incompatible for God like it is incompatible for Hitler or anyone else. So to make excuses to think they are compatible ideas is moronic. To point that out is not arrogant.

I'd love to know what evidence that claim of certainty is based on. You have not proven he exists, let alone for 100% what his view on a topic is!

It is an argument that holds together and you haven't explained why it doesn't.

You still haven't grasped how one word fundamentally can change a question. Plus, I've pointed out to Raging Bull the massive fundamental flaws in his point.

Wow, just wow. Excuse making and mental gymnastics at its worst! You really have been brainwashed! Were those people owned by another person? Yes Does Exodus give instructions how slaves and the children of slaves can be inherited by your own choldren Were they free to leave? No Were some of them forced to work to pay off debts? Yes Does Exodus give instructions on how you can punish your slaves? That equals slavery being endorsed and enabled by the character of God in that old horrific book.

No it isn't. - God is 100% kind and loving - God word for word outlines who you can own as a slaves, how you punish them and how you can trade them To deny a conflict between the two is moronic. Endorsing and enabling slavery is moronic. Let us try it again but change one word... - Hitler is 100% kind and loving - Hitler word for word outlines who you can own as a slaves, how you punish them and how you can trade them To deny a conflict between the two is moronic Would you think it arrogant to think people who think Hitler was 100% kind and loving and set rules for slave labour were morons?

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A camel on the pitch?

It is not a ridiculous claim to say how even changing one word in a question to another completely changes the requirements of the answer.

Anyone who thinks a 100% kind and loving God would endorse slavery as Exodus clearly does is a moron. There is no mental gymnastics or excuse making possible that can fix the issue. There is a clear conflict between them that can not be fixed. Kind and loving to all cannot work with a god who outlines step by step how you can own another human, sell them, punish them etc.

I know you said that. My point remains valid.

🙄 Different wording can make a huge difference to question. One word changed in the question can require an entirely different answer.

Oh dear you two! 🙄 Have you actually read the nonsense in the book? Exodus 21 is God instructing his chosen people the Jews who they can own as a slave, how the Jews can punish their slaves, how long you can own them for and that you can pass on your slaves to your children etc etc. It is a slave owners handbook!

Atheist does not mean anti god. It does not mean I claim no gods exist. It is the rejection of a claim.

Are you going to concede my point I made before that? Not every question on a topic is the same question. No floundering there at all!

I can't believe I need to explain to a grown man that every question on a topic is not the same question about that topic! Not every question about slavery is the same question about slavery. This is really basic stuff Turkish.

Nonsense. How can a person not see there is an issue between... - believing God is 100% kind and loving - that same god gives instructions humans can own another human, punish them, sell them. All clearly outlined in the book of Exodus - doesn't deem making an anti slavery commandment worth taking up a space instead of one of the pointless other ones You have to do a huge amount of mental gymnastics and excuse making to justify all of that!

Nope, I have not worded a question like that in this thread. There have been questions on slavery, but not worded like that.

I won't find it, because it is not a question I've asked before in the thread. 🙄

Remind me of the answer to the slavery Bible dilemma. Why does the character of God endorse it and not have it as a commandment to not do it?

Nope, I don't recall seeing any answer to that question at any point during this thread. If you have, please remind me of it.