Matthew Le God

Raging Bull... do you think it is possible to be sad in heaven?

Quite possibly... but Raging Bull and a significant number of people on this planet believe it literally happened as described in the old book. Despite there both being a lack of evidence for it and lots of evidence against it. Why is it insulting to highlight flaws? If it really is the word of god then it should hold up to scrutiny... but it doesn't.

Darren

Which question have I skipped?

Raging bull claimed that in order to get the evidence required to believe in Christ you need to believe in Christ and it will be revealed to you. That is circular reasoning. So it is you that 'does not get it'... not me!

What questions do you think that provides water-tight answers to? Every single 'answer' to the questions is deeply flawed and does not hold up to scrutiny when applying a rational mind to it. Pick any of their answers and I'll explain why it is flawed.

There is no evidence there was ever a flood (apart from an old book). This is simple stuff Turkish, you are making the assumption there was a flood despite no evidence. Some sea life can live in salt water or freshwater, some sea life can only live in salt water, some sea life can only live in freshwater. There is no scenario where a global flood can see all three groups survive. It is not me being 'not very bright' on this Turkish... look closer to home! There is lots of evidence there was not a global flood... for example the Chinese & Egyptians existed before, during and after the flood is supposed to have occurred and were not wiped out!

So in order to believe in Christ he has to believe in Christ? Can you not see why that is flawed? It is circular reasoning!

Careful... don't make his head explode with one of the hundreds of contradictions in his religion!

Hog

Surely if he is 100% kind and loving they shouldn't need to fear him!

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It is as you also appear to see no issue with freshwater fish not being able to live in salt-water. Yet again... you are making a flawed point by assuming the flood happened before proving it did happen. There is no evidence apart from an old book by unknown authors that it happened.

At no point have I said every prayer is harmful. You continue to ignore this and appear to think I have. Yes/No answers to these won't take you long... 1) I think it is healthy to believe in as many true things and as few false things as possible. Would you agree? 2) One of the best ways to reduce the amount of false things you believe in is to see if it holds up to scrutiny under questioning. Would you agree? 3) Beliefs influence actions and actions impact on other people. Would you agree? 4) Reducing the amount of false beliefs reduces the likelihood of negative actions on wider society. Would you agree?

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1) I think it is healthy to believe in as many true things and as few false things as possible. Would you agree? 2) One of the best ways to reduce the amount of false things you believe in is to see if it holds up to scrutiny under questioning. Would you agree? 3) Beliefs influence actions and actions impact on other people. Would you agree? 4) Reducing the amount of false beliefs reduces the likelihood of negative actions on wider society. Would you agree?

Yep, a 4 year old can see the story is bull****! Raging Bull believes all animals were on the ark. Noah lived in the middle east, kangaroos live in Australia... how did they get on the ark and then back to Australia without leaving a trace of their migration? Noah did not know Australia existed! Nor did the people who made up the stories in the Bible.

That fundamentally flawed and illogical as it is based on an unfounded assumption there was a flood in the first place! If there was a global flood, whatever the salt level some life would not be able to survive, if it was high, low or somewhere in the middle. Yet all sea life lived through it! As did Chinese civilisation with no record from the Chinese that they drowned. They lived through the global flood!

It is four yes/no questions. I guess the answers would highlight the flaws in your position... It is not arrogant to state that the actions of others impact on wider society and that people's actions are influenced by their beliefs. Therefore if someone holds a false belief based on shoddy or no evidence then that can negatively impact society.

Which part of your posts are you claiming I've ignored? No it hasn't! Not all freshwater life can live in salt-water and not all salt-water life can live in freshwater. Nor has the kangaroo point been answered.

1) I think it is healthy to believe in as many true things and as few false things as possible. Would you agree? 2) One of the best ways to reduce the amount of false things you believe in is to see if it holds up to scrutiny under questioning. Would you agree? 3) Beliefs influence actions and actions impact on other people. Would you agree? 4) Reducing the amount of false beliefs reduces the likelihood of negative actions on wider society. Would you agree?

If his beliefs stand up to questions then it is worthwhile believing in them. If your world view does not hold up to questioning then is it worthwhile continuing with it? Beliefs influence actions, actions impact on others and wider society. To believe without evidence that humans interbred with fallen angel giants like he claims doesn't hold up... unless he can prove otherwise.

Not all over the place... you are when not understanding freshwater fish can not live in a salt-water global flood! I asked him to provide evidence of breeding with giants that he claimed, that does not mean he needs to gather the DNA evidence a link to a reliable source that has would suffice. Raging Bull believing in talking snakes, people being created from ribs and dirt, water into wine, healing the sick, burning bushes, 900 year old men, global floods etc etc without evidence is 'all over the place', not me!

Can you really not see the flaw in that? You are essentially saying I have to believe in something to believe in something. It is circular and illogical. If god exists and is all knowing he would know what level of evidence I would require to believe in him and he chooses not to provide it, instead all we have is an old book with unknown authors that is not testable or supported by external evidence.

Even if some species could survive in either. What about the numerous ones that couldn't? Did Noah have an aquarium on the ark for them?