Matthew Le God

Oh **** it. Turkish is off ignore for the first time in 15 months. I've read his last post. Those two posts he quoted of mine do NOT contradict each other. I think we stayed up in 2012/13 despite Hooiveld playing, rather than because he did. He was the weaklink whenever he played in the Premier League and was someone opponents would look to exploit, even in games we won and/or kept clean sheets.

At no point did I say he didn't play a significant number of games, what I said is that he was out of his depth in the Premier League. I think we stayed up in 2012/13 despite him playing, rather than because he did. He was the weaklink whenever he played in the Premier League and was someone opponents would look to exploit, even in games we won and/or kept clean sheets. At Championship level his defienciencies can be glossed over and he showed himself to be effective in our promotion campaign. The Premier League is a different matter and he is a signicant weakling that makes extra work for his team-mates to cover his lack of pace, positional awareness and distribution errors.

So what? That doesn't mean he had a good game. He was found out in a lot of games at Premier League level - pretty much every game (even those in which we kept clean sheets). Are you suggesting he is a competent Premier League level defender then? Would you be happy to see him play a lot for us again? Do you not think he is slow, lacks positional sense at a high level, weak in the air, a poor passer and is uncomfortable on the ball at Premier League level?

I'll refer you to the second half of post #23.

Has Turkish still not realised I've had him on ignore for roughly the last 15 months? Is he really that slow to cotton on? Its only you quoting him that allows me to see it. As you think the same thing, I'll say it to you, he was found out in a lot of games at Premier League level - pretty much every game (even those in which we kept clean sheets). Are you suggesting he is a competent Premier League level defender then? Would you be happy to see him play a lot for us again? Do you not think he is slow, lacks positional sense at a high level, weak in the air, a poor passer and is uncomfortable on the ball at Premier League level?

It was with Fonte and Yoshida we stayed up in that season, Hooiveld was out of his depth. He has never risen above Championship level. He's a great character and important part of the promotion season, but Saints progressed beyond Hooiveld.

If he goes it suggests another centre back coming in, or Koeman thinks Stephens is ready to be 4th choice. Burnley really have shown a lack of ambition with their incomings, Hooiveld would be another signing seemingly preparing for life in the Championship next season.

Lancashire Telegraph Burnley reporter... Suzanne Geldard ‏@LT_Suzanne Understand Burnley's search for defensive reinforcements has led them to look at Southampton's Jos Hooiveld

It makes no sense for him to agree to a pay cut. If you've signed a contract with Chelsea and they have to pay you the amount on the contract until date X, why would you then agree to a wage cut? Chelsea would have to pay him 100% if he stayed, if Chelsea pay even 90% of his wages when on loan and Wigan the other 10% then Chelsea are saving money and he still gets 100% of his Chelsea contract.

St Chalet thought players on loan could/would take cuts, perhaps others on the forum do as well.

Players on loan don't take cuts to their salary, all that is to be arranged is the % spilt of his existing contract with Saints between us and Sevilla. Ramirez won't see a difference to his wages whilst he remains a Saints player, even when out on loan.

If the deal is close it seems odd Saints cup tied him by bringing him on last night rather than Saphir Taider.

Do you really think Pelle, Tadic, Long, Forster, Bertrand etc are "far less" than the players they replace? Shane Long for example was on £45,000 p/w at Hull City, I bet we gave him a pay rise after a £12m move.

The source of this... https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marca.com%2F2014%2F08%2F27%2Ffutbol%2Fequipos%2Fsevilla%2F1409144940.html&edit-text=

Because it was so obviously, 100%, cast-iron deliberate I guess some people can't understand why you've brought an element of doubt into it. You appear to watch football in a very different way to most people on this forum.

It would be good to keep him, but from Cork's point of view he really should be looking to be a regular starter at the age of 25. He'd be a regular starter if he moved to Crystal Palace, I can't see that happening at Saints, especially if Schneiderlin stays this window.

In a midfield three Cork is best suited to the one deep role and he won't play in that role ahead of Schneiderlin or Wanyama. I can also see why managers would favour Ward-Prowse and S.Davis for the more advanced roles. As I said Cork is a good player, but he is going to struggle for starts this season if he stays at Saints.

Although he is a good player, central midfield is the strongest position in our squad and we have better players than him in his position. That is why when everyone is fit, Cork won't start games.

Why have you assumed I produced it? Its currently one of the most popular images on Twitter, with "Jason Puncheon" trending.

Puncheon will be delighted...

Instead of...?

He doesn't say "expects" in this interview from 3:40... https://audioboo.fm/boos/2425366-saintsfc-boss-ronald-koeman-speaks-to-bigadamsport-after-2-0-league-cup-r2-win-at-millwall He says "I hope", which is completely different to expecting.

Or... that he has recovered from his injury.

Simon Peach ‏@SimonPeach 23m Geoff Cameron could be leaving #SCFC soon, according to @JPW_NBCSports. #Lazio, #SAFC, #HCAFC, #LCFC & #SaintsFC the potential destinations. Which was based on... Joe Prince-Wright @JPW_NBCSports · 55m EXCLUSIVE - US star Geoff Cameron lined up by Italian giants Lazio, numerous PL clubs http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/25/us-star-geoff-cameron-lined-up-by-italian-giants-lazio-numerous-pl-clubs/ Joe Prince-Wright @JPW_NBCSports · 17m Out of the teams mentioned, Lazio would be a huge move for Geoff Cameron and #USMNT in general. Expected to play in CM role for Italian side

They've gone by train this evening...