VectisSaint

One of the troubles with this particular "stat". We had several attempts that looked on target but were deflected away by defenders, they count as "off target", we also hit the crossbar, which is also "off target". We were so much better today than in most of Puel's games last season (there were a few exceptions, didn't we have 34 attempts against Hull or something stupid?), MP just needs to find a way to get Gabbi more involved, it needs someone playing closer to him (in my opinion). One of the most one-sided 0-0s you will see, nevertheless Tammy Abrahams should have buried us in the first half but fluffed his lines.

We got behind them many times actually, just couldn't do anything with it when we did.

Its not what I'm saying, its what linguistic experts say. Me, I couldn't tell a Portuguese from a Brazilian (linguistically). You don't really think I made that up do you? I checked it out factually and posted it. Anyway we all know now that Mario is Gabonese and speaks French. Don't know about Luigi. Think the laugh is on you really mate

Usually we wait two or three seasons and sign players who have won the Champions League (Bertrand, Hojbjerg, Romeu, Caceres), getting a runner-up may be a first.

Super.

Although Argentina's official language is Spanish, Argentinian Spanish is different from the Spanish spoken in Spain. In some ways it sounds more like Italian than Spanish. :mcinnes:

You'll wait a long time, we stopped the watch business 2 or 3 years ago. Eterna? are not sponsors these days.

That was a bit worrying, it should actually read (froim the English page of the same site) "His father will arrive from Gabon today and by tomorrow the deal will be official." http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-lemina-having-his-medicals-with-southampton-the-figures

Not exactly the worst team we ever put out. Jesus, Surman, Saga and Rasiak were decent on their day (depending whether Saga was due a new deal or not). Viafara was OK at times as well. OK some of the others were dire, but sure there were many worse line-ups.

Do the u23s have any pre-season friendlies? Unable to find anything on the OS or elsewhere.

Assist for Davis, good build up by Tadic

When did Long come on?

What about if Virgil doesn't want to go to Chelsea? We can't make him. He has said he only wants to play for Liverpool.

It wasn't just money though was it, he was also made Captain (which is more important to both player and club than some on here seem to think), and that at a time when we already had a captain. That was a big deal for the Club and meant that the Club were already planning to relieve Fonte of that responsibility, which could only mean by getting rid. Something happened between VvD and the Club (Les) during the months that followed, presumably after January. Liverpool's approach was not the catalyst for change, it was a result of whatever that catalyst was (in my opinion). Would love to know what it was that happened to sour the relationship.

Bednarek is u21 as are Sims and Hesketh, they do not count towards the 25 man squad. We have 25 over 21s, no gaps at present. Gardos, Gazza and Gallagher are the most likely to be shipped out, or we may have a gap if that Virgill chappy is sold.

and keeper

You can't just sell a player to someone unless he wants to go there. This is not a slave market. He has stated that he only wants to play for Liverpool, maybe he would go to someone else if they made an offer, but its a bit simplistic to just says, "let's ell him to xyz...", it doesn't work like that. I would still like to know what it was that turned Virgil against Southampton in the period after he extended his contract and early 2017. People seem to think it was because Liverpool tapped him up or because he changed agents (do we know when exactly he changed agents, was that a cause of the issues or an effect). There have been hints that this all started back around January, what lead to him and Les Reed "hating each other"? It must have been after he was announced as captain, was it something to do with how his injury was treated (we have history of our medical staff falling out with players, Ramirez had a similar dispute with his dead leg problem), or was it something to do with Puel - this seems to be hinted at with regard to other players allegedly looking to leave (Bertrand, Tadic) who have now changed their minds. Don't know the answer, but feel that there is more to this situation than meets the eye, based on some hints by the ITKs on here. Personally think the Club should just dig their heels in and not agree to him leaving, whatever the price. If he stays will we renegotiate his contract (downwards) as he will presumably no longer be Captain (and was this why Fonte fell out with the Club and pushed to leave as I suspect). Its time that players started showing a bit more professionalism, as MLT says and behave in a more mature way.

Forster

Nice to have 2 Saints in the 5. Actually think Yeboah's is best as well (but voted for MLT). Would like to vote for Rod as well. Beckham's is the least good of the five, overrated ****.

Maybe it's because MoPe is planning to go 3 at the back. Just a thought.

Imagine the players are back in tomorrow, given they have just come back from training camp and we have a game on Wednesday.

If there was a metric for the pass before the assist you would see why. His corners are not great and that is the source of most of JWP's assists (together with his free kicks). But his strength is so often the pass that leads indirectly to the goal. Of course not many assists because we were so pathetic at actually scoring last season. The reliance by some people on the "number of assists" statistic in deciding whether a player is good or not is one of those things that highlights the ignorance of some modern day football fans. Don't get me wrong, we could do better than Davis, he is coming to the end of his career and we need to replace him, but at the moment he is still the best we have.

Bednarek is classed as under 21 (he turned 21 in April), so we have at least 2 spaces if needed. I assume that Gazza will still go out on loan

No and no.