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Williams and Lukaku were booked, though I must have missed both.

Meant to say I'm sure one announcement put Josh Sims off, it was so loud.

**** me the new PA IS LOUD, TOO ****ING LOUD. Still at least we can now hear Kenzie. Sorry if the music at hakf time was appropriate to someone local, but it was awful. Please can we have Muse back.

Nearly Christmas, the time of year when Saints traditionally go on a very poor run. Lets hope we can buck the trend this year. Not overly confident though. 1-0.

Is he even the 3rd keeper? Rested for the game in Prague (guess sitting on the bench for years is more tiring than you would think). No mention I've seen or heard about when Alex McCarthy will be fit again.

Liverpool have asked us to develop him on their behalf.

Its not. We did it with Stephens and Turnbull, at least, at Swindon.

They played CL at Wembley but are talking about ditching Wembley.if they drop into EL.

Quite clear that it is not just a case of resting him. You don't just leave your captain out of all EL matches for the sake of resting him. There is something behind this other than just squad rotation.

Take it back,they are out on head-to-head rule

They can still qualify. They probably won't but they are not out yet. Playing at Wembley has cost them.

Although it wasn't technically true. Bertrand's early effort was on target, deflected off a defender, but would probably have gone in or at least produced a save.

Shame this has focused on our relative position vs Pompey. The position won't change between us for many many years. The interesting point is that we have recently overhauled former European Champions, Nottm Forest, and our next target is former European semi-finalists, Derby County. This table won't change much (in terms of positions) from season to season, but we could overhaul Derby in the next year or so. Our home average currently is about 1800 more than theirs, and the difference between us in the table stands at 45. It would be nice to see us in the Top 20, and given all the years when we were restricted by the small size of The Dell this will be some achievement.

Mane still had 2 yeasr left on his contract. We didn't have to sell, and likely we would have got more for him in the 2017 summer window. He was swayed by Klopp who had tried to buy him before, but to continue with this line that we had to sell and that we got the best we could for him is silly. Heisenberg is a troll (like others on here who are complaining about him) but in this case he really isn't too wrong.

So Wijnaldum and Sturridge instead. Not much of a break really. Sturridge likes scoring against us.

So why are you going on about it? I agree with you, but you seem to have a problem understanding that we could do this if we wanted to and it would be in the spirit of the competition which is to give development opportunities to young players, of which Hojbjerg is an example, and one of the younger ones (of those listed earlier) at that. Sheesh, some people.

The point of the competition being to provide young players with development opportunities. Given both are u21 why should they not be given those opportunities? I wasn't actually seriously suggesting it, but it is possible, even though neither Redmond or Hojbjerg are our Academy players. Think many people forget that Hojbjerg is younger than the perennial developing youngster JWP.

Apart from Hojbjerg (who shouldn't be on the list), pretty obvious really, European hangover, late return to training. Pelle is the same ;-) Forster probably no worse than before, he has always been poor at shot saving.

Graziano Pelle 6th highest paid footballer in the world. FFS.

Hojbjerg as well. But then wencould also play any 5 of the other first teamers as well.

****ing awful performance and result. Worst of the season (though Sunderland and Watford at home run it close). Lack of penetration up front again, we are really woeful in front of goal, a penalty and an OG for our last 2 goals. Keeper who hardly ever makes saves, but its not really about individuals.

https://southamptonfc.com/u23s/fixtures/2016-17 No ticket details though. On the other hand ticket details are on the Crawly site: http://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/article/2016-17/crawley-town-southampton-3383867.aspx, £5 on the night, £3 for concessions and £1 for kids, pay on the night. Crawley have already qualified for the next round but will probably want to win the group and keep their 100% record. If they do we will probably be out, assuming Charlton beat Colchester, even a draw may not be enough for us. Could be a tough game for our u21s, Crawley obviously better (and more interested) than either of the others we have played, and we probably won't use any "senior" players (though I suppose one or two who are not on international duty could benefit from a game). Like the optimism below that seems to think this gets us close to a Wembley appearance, if last 32 is near Wembley I suppose they're right and yet another game in our crazy fixture schedule in mid December.

So were they. Can't abide it when people think its OK for us to drop home points against crap teams because we were badly prepared. We are too soft at times, usually at the start of a season.

JWP had one of his best games, but he was not great. Needs to work on his rugby tackles though, his attempt to stop the Milan player break away near the end was frankly embarrassing.

Should be easy to spot, will be wearing a half and half scarf. More to the point, people bemoaning the lack of singing, we will not be able to sing Liebherr Wonderland any more. Perhaps "The Chinese Way" might catch on.