VectisSaint

Apparently had to have surgery.

A very good save, not stunning (thought it was in real-time but not when I saw it on MOTD replay). You couldn't fault him yesterday for lack of saves, he saved one shot they had on target (Davis cleared another one off the line (BBC think it was JWP), I don't recall the third). Anyway praise where its due, he did make a good save. He was still awful when it came to his punching (though at least he did come for a couple, more than he usually does), almost wiped Stephens out with one of them.

Where is Yoshida going?

I heard we were going to get Teletext on the Isle of Wight soon, perhaps I will be able to keep up with the Echo reports then [Note as I don't live on the Island and haven't done for over 40 years the cracking joke was a bit wasted, and coming from Shroppie in Shropshire ]

Maybe its just me, but I think it is the spit of Shane Long (rather than Quinny). Perhaps we could transfer it and set it up when Shane retires, somewhere near the touchline and in an onside position.

Oh **** me the pedant is at it again. If you look at the report it was published 15 hours ago, but guess now this is when it was last updated rather than first published (given there are comments from Tuesday). Don't see or get the Echo (only looked because it was linked on here). You really need to try to grasp the concepts of humour, banter and fun (as well as defensive midfielder), may be try to get out more.

Posted it on here before the Echo article. Pure speculation based on the reality of Maya's return journey from Japan. Nice that the Echo follow my theories https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?57827-Mamadou-Sakho-thoughts&p=2474802#post2474802

Where are these attacks? Certainly not much evidence on this thread. Really you have apparently made it up. There are some odd posters who seem to think any criticism of a player should not be allowed, even in a light hearted way. Really very simplistic view on being a supporter of a football club.

Not happy if I have to move. My "child" has not been a child for a few years now.

On the other hand if Conte moves on as rumoured. Maybe VvD will actually stay at SMS as he has allegedly agreed.

Maybe Caceres will play Saturday, Maya has a long trip back from Japan tonight, not much recovery time.

Still a fact that he is aging, probably one or two seasons at this level, will need to be replaced. Doesn't take away that he was excellent again tonight. Hope Shane Long was watching the 2nd goal, to see how to make good use of Davis' through balls and not get caught offside every time.

To be fair the gap between games in the summer is not much longer than the gap between home games before next weekend.

No idea, did it used to be in Hampshire, along with Bournemouth?

Over a third of the 1st/2nd year Academy players are not eligible for England. Chris Klarer was recently called up for Austria and Yan Valery for France.

And you clearly don't know what a DM is. If I were you I would give up now, before you dig yourself deeper. He has also played as the DM alone, a few times when he has had to cover for injuries (substitutions) in the past.

Creased me up.

Charlie Austin or Jack Stephens, but more likely a transfer in (Joe Hart).

WBA 43, West Ham 40. One more will take us level with Newcastle and Nottm Forest. But we have less than half of Spurs (75) and Villa (73). On the following site we are shown as only having 35 capped players: http://englandstats.com The missing player being C B Fry (the real one), they have him associated with Corinthians. Looks like the OP was using a different site as he listed Charlie Fry as well.

Agreed, I cannot find the references either. I assume some sort of infiltration by the CIA or Barack Obama has lead to this information being modified :-). I distinctly remember at the time of the takeover or shortly thereafter that a list was available that showed the wealth of Markus, independently from that of Willi and Isolde, and that it was about $4bn. Maybe it wasn't Forbes, which is a shame because it is the backbone of my argument. That said, I think it beggars belief that you seriously think that Markus was not a multi billionaire (whether that be 2,3 or 4 billion). There are references around indicating that his wealth, independent of the Liebherr Group (Willi and Isolde) was around 3bn Euros (Telegraph Obituary, for example, which is clear that his business was quite separate from the Liebherr Group). Although not as good a source as Forbes, of course, it was reported in 2014 that Katharina had inherited her Father's $3bn fortune (although I don't believe myself that she did inherit the full amount), hence her appearance in the Top 10 Richest English Premier League owners (Valnet Inc), nevertheless it would be strange if they did not get their numbers from some reliable source. The Mirror (yes, I know a ragtop, with no substance at all) quoted that Katharina was worth £1.9bn in 2015 (probably a more believable figure than the $3bn from 2014). Whether or not KL is still a multi-billionaire (if 1.9 counts as multi) is a moot point, but there can surely be little doubt that her Father was before his untimely death. Markus inherited a great deal from his father, Hans, and purchased the main constituent companies of the MALI Group in 1994 (he did not build them up from scratch). These were not back yard/ industrial estate little tin pot companies, but suppliers of R&D and equipment to the automotive and other industries (diesel engine common rail technology). It was of course reported that he handed his shares in the Liebherr Group back at a later date (as did his brother Hubert), but this does not mean he gave back any of his "fortune", merely that he gave away his part in the controlling interest of the Liebherr Group and gained nothing further from their efforts. I think your assertion that the winding up of the MALI Group was a simple affair (implying the company was not substantial) is really pure fantasy. Without the Forbes reference it is difficult to prove that Markus was as wealthy as believed, but there is still enough circumstantial evidence that he was worth in the realms of 2-4bn (whether that be dollars, euros, pounds, Swiss francs or other reliable currency as opposed to Nigerian Naira). If you really think Markus' wealth was wildly overstated then you will no doubt be able to produce verifiable details :-) It is arguable that KL is not as wealthy, that is accepted, the terms of her inheritance probably meant that she did not inherit even 50% of her Father's total estate, the inheritance laws in Switzerland are complex and in any case I suspect that substantial parts of his Estate passed to others, including his great friend Cortese, and possibly to KL's son. Incidentally, in all of the years since ML came onto the scene I have never found any reference to his wife (KL's mother). Did she die, were they divorced, does anyone actually know? Please post your citations to the list to back up your theory that Markus Liebherr was actually a pauper, my citations for the contra-argument are shown below :-) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/sport-obituaries/7950756/Markus-Liebherr.html http://www.therichest.com/sports/soccer-sports/top-10-richest-english-premier-league-owners/ http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-leagues-richest-owners-how-6233348. On the other hand you might just think, who gives a tinker's cuss and give up

Show me that then.

Around the time that Markus took us over it was reported on the Forbes List (which is about as authoritative as you can get outside seeing his personal bank accounts) that his personal wealth was around $4bn, nothing to do with the Liebherr family as a whole, as they were separately listed. Whether he still had this mount when he died is another matter, and undoubtedly Katherina did not inherit this much.

He is 32, no top club is going to beat a path to our door for a midfielder approaching the end of his career. All of the other players mentioned bar Lambert were young and had years of development ahead of them. The only place he would go now is Rangers, and that's unlikely.

Whether you were born in Southampton or not it is a derby. A derby is "a sports event between teams in the same area". In this case the area is the County of Southampton or Hampshire (the ceremonial county not the political redraw of 1974) [if some of our younger readers are not aware Boscombe was in the County of Southampton until 1891 and then Hampshire until 1974]. The area can also be considered the South Coast (personally I have an issue whether Southampton is actually on the South Coast but it seems by definition it is), or the New Forest. Why people seem to have a problem with this is beyond me. It is just as much a derby as with the Skates. You could argue that it is not a local derby, but then if so the Skates would not be a local derby either, whereas Eastleigh or Totton probably would be. It is arguable whether it is a rivalry, but it is not arguable whether it is a derby. I don't consider it much of a rivalry at present, but it could become one, especially as the other lot become less and less relevant. I like having a localish team in the same division as us, as long as we continue to be above them.

That is just paper talk, based on no evidence, fake news. Indications from the Club are that it could be very minor and could be back but that they will know better after scans this week. In other words nobody knows yet.