VectisSaint

What a knob. Pray tell what is a football people? Is Markus Liebherr a football people? You seem to think so as you mention him in your "location"- would have though that he was a bit too middle class for your liking. For your information middle class people don't go to Tesco, we tend to frequent M&S and Waitrose (or Fortnum and Mason on the odd occassion), Tesco is for chavvies LOL

I guess people would moan about his lack of pace if Usain Bolt played for us. Sheesh, some people are getting ****ing stupid around here. Then to suggest Murty being back is good, I think I know where my money would be in a race between Harding and Murty. We drew with Norwich yesterday folks, not a bad result against one of the top teams. We didn't lose we scored 2 great golas, yet it seems people on here are at the wrist slitting stage already. One thing to bear in mind at all times, it is an indisputable fact that we are currently watching the worst Saints team for over 50 years (possible exception last year's team as they were relegated to this level). You need to remember that we have level 3 standard players now that we are not in the Prem. The best we should hope for from this squad is that many of them would be OK in the Championship. We probably have the best squad in L1, and we certainly have one of the best coaching setups now.

Probably something to do with him being fit, whereas Murty may be back in contention now but it remains to be seen for how long. Still I like your criticisms of Lambert, Davis and Hammond, makes a change from the tossers lambasting James

You still don't get it do you. Try reading what is written. If you had any undeerstanding of the history of Saints you would know that these were the words of the song we used to sing for Ron. Of course the view is biased towards Saints, butr actually in this case I think you would find that anyone over the age of 10 would actually recognise that Ron was one of the greatest proper centre forwards ever seen - Sir Matt Busby was a good judge and that was what he thought when he tried to sign him.

I wasn't there so did not see the incident, but from your description this possibly says more about Mellis than Waigo. If Papa was blatantly offside then Jacob should not have passed to him and gone alone.

I accept I wasn't at the game today but how did James cost us 2 points? Was he directly to blame for the 2nd goal, most seem to be blaming Davis. He may have given away a penalty but we were still winning before their 2nd goal went in. As I said last week it seems James has become the scapegoat for those who feel the need to have someone to blame. Its a team game, get off the lad's back. he has been asked to play out of position due to unavailability of Murty and has done a decent job from what I have seen.

Thought he missed a few handballs personally, and with Henry in the stands he should have done better.

We can honour who we like, we are talking here about honours being bestowed by Solent University, I suspect they will not consider George as being worthy of an Honorary Doctorate of Sport.

I would like to think that Ron would "complete the set". I really don't think anyone else (given that this sort of honour is for living legends) would merit this status, and more would devalue it. Of course Sir Ted could have been rightly honoured in this way, but sadly that is not possible. Think its great that some of my heroes are becoming fellow alumni of Solent Uni (OK, OK, it was the College of Technology in my day )

Cowes. I'm sure Westwood could be brought up to a better standard than Nottarf Krap... Come to think of it, I'm sure it already is.

Good man, and thanks for taking the time to do this. I'm not a particularly sentimental bloke, but I really do hope this eventually happens, it would be particularly fitting in my opinion, for both of my football boyhood heroes, Ron and Mick to be honoured in this way.

Accepting that you really meant disrepute, then isn't this one of the most blatant examples of "bringing the game into disrepute"? The game is clearly now in disrepute, action must and should be taken to ensure that this does allow the game to be tarnsihed.

I guess you also don't know then that Channon played for Saints before Ron, and like Channon also played for Norwich. This hatred of Pompey that you seem to know so much about is a relatively new phenomenon, in the days when our great players moved down the road (pre M27) to play out their careers at a lower standard club was in the days when there was a rivalry, rather than hatred. The two things are very different, rivalry is healthy, hatred is not. Many many supoprters of Saints in those days would also slum it in the intervening weeks by going to watch Pompey (and vice versa of course). I used to regularly watch Pompey (though I did usually have the sense to stand in the away end). We were almost always in different divisions and so it was quite Ok to support both. In my time the real rivalry was with Spurs, not Pompey. It is a reflection on sad people like you, not the players that you would find it difficult if a Saints legend player for Pompey. Just in case you are unaware by the way, I'll let you into another little secret, Bobby Stokes not only played for Pompey but he was a Pompey lad. While Bobby is not in the same league as Mick and Ron (in legend statsu) he is still something of a Saints legend primarily down to that one moment of glory - but I guess you would have had a problem with that as well. Ron Davies, the greatest centre forward the WORLD has ever seen. FACT.

As I suspected all along you have very little knowledge of Saints if you think Big Ron was English. You also clearly don't recall the song and if you had seen Big ron play you would have great difficulty in naming a better CF in the world. I'll stand by what I said.

As I said on the Big Ron thread, Solent Uni should be looking to complete the set of Saints Legends by honouring Ron Davies in the same way. Mick deserves such recognition as does MLT and Lawrie, but I think Big Ron would be just about the ultimate - the greatest centre forward the world has ever seen.

The ref last night had a damn good game, apart from 2 incidents. The goal which has been done to death and the Anelka dive. He was dead right not to give the penalty, but he made a huge mistake not booking Anelka for simulation. If it was a dive (which it clearly was) the booking is not optional.

Second most disgusting goal ever actually, the Hand of God goal was far worse, primarily because the little Argie druggy didn't even have the good grace to admit it afterwards. Thierry Henry looked to me suitably embarrassed and contrite about it. I always had a lot of respect for Henry after the incident at cardiff when he could easily have got Claus sent off, but to imagine that any professional footballer is going to ask for a goal he has scored to be disallowed is frankly laughable, however sensible it might seem. I imagine it would be a career-ending move if anyone actually did so. Still the fact remains that the Irish were indeed robbed.

I see on the OS that Solent Uni is honouring Mick Channon with an honorary doctorate of sport on saturday, joining Le Tiss and Terry Paine (and Lawrie). I wholeheartedly support this award for the legends of our club. There is one more fully deserving legend that should be added to that list. How we could influence Solent Uni to complete the list I don't know, but to me it would be very fitting for the the greatest centre forward that the world has ever seen. And to see Big Ron at SMS would make it complete in my view. Best wishes to Ron again Tim

Not a great deal wrong with the Saints players ratings, though why harding is marked with a 5 because he was booed I have no idea. Would probably have given him 6 and Spiderman 6 otherwise can't really disagree with much. But the Brighton ratings are a complete joke. Kuipers was at least an 8, possibly 9, great saves, and professional attitiude slowed the game down and wasted as much time as possible. Murray also would deserve a 7 or 8. Several of the others deserved higher ratings as well, but usually I don't take much notice of individuals of the opposition.

Hammond, good organ (izer)

Actually Delap changed his style of throw-ins quite markedly at Stoke. When he played for us they were basically just looped high into the area. With Stoke he perfected the technique of throwing them with a lower trajectory and with much more power right into the goal area, where a simple flick on with head or boot had a damn good chance of ending up in the net. It is the whipping in with power technique that made him successful.

And the biggest loss of all was Snodin. For all those who simply quote the stats, take out the games when Snodin was on board and then tell us GB was good. We were crap when GB joined, Snodin joined a while later and we got better, Snodin left and we became utter tripe mid table with the best squad of fatties and lardy boys in the CCC.

Sorry but I think your analysis is incorrect, although he did put in some excellent crosses bending away from the keeper, he also made some smart inside passes, and played some excellent balls for Antonio to attack. One-dimensional he was not, but he was given a plan and whenever he had a chance to execute that plan he did so, and created a couple of gilt-edged chances which if our strikers had been on form would have won the game for us. One mistake, and that when we were chasing and playing 3 at the back and the guy gets slated, jeez, it seems some have found their new anti-hero instead of recognising one of the most talented players to come through from our youth system and actually cement a place in the team.

Said it somewhere else, start off 4-5-1 and change to 4-4-2 for the 2nd half. Works a treat.

Absolutely, can't believe that crap that some are saying about him. Their defence were scared stiff of him, and El-Abd or whatever his name is was getting very close to being sent off due to his frustration. When Brighton doubled up on him, that should have given someone else the chance to exploit the space. Connolly, Lallana and Lambert spectacularly failed to do so, these are the guys who should be criticised. I couldn't believe it when AP took him off, he should have stayed on and broght Waigo into the middle as well, then Brighton would have been ****ting themselves with the pace. Some people need to take a good hard look at what they are criticising. Our 3 best players on Sunday were Antonio, James and Harding. Everyone else was well below par, yet these three are coming in for the most criticism from some, bizarre. I will forgive Lambert because he was clearly ill and probably should not have played but his desire to play and help is refreshing, shame we don't have enough strength in depth to leave him out - perhaps Saga should have played.