Give it to Ron

I remember the mass game of footie in the car park at Dover. The bar staff flogging crates of beer on the boat and pocketing the dosh. What was scarey was the ground where the terraces were crumbling under your feet if you jumped up and down. How many times was Chanson D'amour played in the ground that night? The bar was packed in Ostend.....they made a fortune that night.

Sorry it makes not a jot of difference what Pinnacle do here apart from complete. They do not have exclusitivy here any more so the Swiss can do whatever they want.

I cant see the club folding as we were assured Salz and cronies wouldnt let that happen. Fry also said he had 2 new bids on the table and had a week to talk with them so why any delay?

I have been doing that since last Friday..the cramp is killing me. There is only one way this can be fixed...complete the deal. the main problem we are now faced is 'Was the Swiss deal a better one'

Can you explain why some people seem to revel in our misery? Is it great that we have been duped again? The previous boards we had including Lowe have driven this club into administration NONE of them are innocent yet still we get posts that seem to gloat. Why? I don't understand why some do not want this club to move on and get back to being the great friendly, family type club it once was. It seems to me that its more important for some to be a great I told you so on a poxy internet forum than the club being solid again.

I'll bet Rupert does....if we had found the money WGS wanted and not gone on to bulk up the squad with 41 players we just may of sustained our Prem status. Constantly going for the cheap option coupled with some shocking managerial choices all lumbering us with cr8p like Darren Powell...who gave him an extension saw us fall to where we are. We need some bouncbackability and quick.

So the Daily Echo is now the oracle of truth.....unbelievable how gullible some are.

What do you expect him on everyday? He was on the other night with a phone call live to SSN as reported on here. He laid it out pretty clear what the position is and no point him stating the same over and over. Pinnacle are trying to thrash out a deal with the FL that gives them a level playing field. When that changes I am sure he will come back out of his bunker.....or the Guernsey/Jersey Yacht Club.

Well there is only one way this will be proved isn't there? It's time to put up or move aside.

Yep add me to that list....I have had that worry since Friday. There is something that doesn't add up in this. There is plenty out there of history on previous clubs getting points through admin...how many have actually won an appeal? None of this is new despite the 48 hour line. Enough bull just put up or move aside or is this the new plan....to get gazumped and try and save face?

Can I be the first to say NI spoke a lot of sense for once.

Dont shoot the poster it was areport from Gary Cotterill SSN who gave a very black picture. Said a very bad days for Saints fans...deal in jeopardy wages due this week and no money to pay them. It looks bad I am afraid.

No its one of the Beach Boys.

So are you saying TL is lying or not...he states quite categorically that the FL say we can't. Come on don't come out with bull about Wilde...do you believe that TL is lying?

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13993 I have met every condition within the Football Leagues own rules, and thus should be allowed the right to an appeal after our takeover is complete, should I wish to take that action. doesn't this point to the fact we can't?

It hasn't.

Where have you been hiding all these years...have you not seen what happened at Leeds? Luton did try and take them on and got slaughtered. Bournemouth were another example of a club that the FL treated pretty badly. The last paragraph says it all for me....that is the reason why these rules are in existance to prevent that. Nowhere here am I am saying I agree with them and believe we should be able to appeal where I differ is the fact that I can see why the FL say no. Have you ever sat before any football league committee? I have 4 different ones in totally different leagues and ALL are a law to themselves and make decisions that suit. I have been at managers meetings where the committe has decided to change laws there and then ...not at the AGM. Clubs that want to play in that league have to abide by that decision as they elected the members of the committee.

Its on GM's organ monkey thread.

Don't forget there are a few old favourites who would gain from everyone falling on their arse and dropping out. Then a white kight steps forward who doesnt quite have as much as anyone else but no debt.....but saves the day and also stands to make a big profit if we go up. I have seen one of their supporters post a 'secret' on here recently why now when I know he must of been told that ages ago? There are some big games being played out on here. Have a look at GM's posts some of that rings true....

has just been released from coaching Liverpool academy after a 'restructure' we could do far worse by re-employing him as he did an excellent job here before. Well that is if we have a club in the FL next year.

Will the other 91? clubs in the Football League start an email campaign to Mawinney about the snake that tried to slither through the back door of its rules? Ok say we win what are the repercussions of this....the FL will be taken to court by every club that has had a penalty imposed. Everytime we come up in front of them in the future we will get slaughtered. The FL makes up its own rules as it goes along everyone knows this and if you want to play in their league you HAVE to accept that.

Russian mail order bride?

Agreed he did say that then...but now it seems they have decided they have withdrawn that and if we don't like it then we don't have to play in their league. Sorry if that sounds too simple but this is the FL who don't want to be shown up to be wrong so have denied us the opportunity to do this..we have no choice. What about the repercussions if we win....the next time one of our players or club have trouble in the ground or break any minor reggulation we will have double the usual penalty. Sorry this stinks of something else.

Who would pay? Why would Fry if he had MJ and Swiss consortium willing to take the 10 point penalty if it meant them getting the club.

If they are risking all this on an appeal they may even lose - and history tells us they will then sorry there is more to this than that. This is not new..it happens in all sorts of football, an example not dissimilar of over zealous officialdom last year one boys team missed registration by a couple of days due to an admin oversight. The team were refused entry even after an appeal. The league would rather 14 boys not play than bend their rules. Everyone knows the rules and consequences and so did Pinnacle at the outset that we would in all likelihood start -10 to refuse to go ahead with the deal because of this is fishy to say the least.