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Euell close from Skacel cross. Corner.

Size makes "Sunday League" clearance.

Ah fook.

Jeffers close. Corner.

Sounds like Weds are just edging it, but not really many chances.

No idea what you're on about. Strange chap.

Wotte names same side that beat Palace: Davis, James, Perry, Size, Skacel, Lallana, Wotton, Surman, DMG, BWP, Euell Subs: Forecast, Lipstick, Morgan, Smith, Saga Saints lost this fixture 5-0 last season, but it was their only defeat in the last 12 against the Owls.

Hope this helps.

Nakajima 50 points. Only Piquet and Bourdais make him look good.

Anyone know where the best places to park are near the stadium?

Just out of interest Ponty, does Nando have enough fuel to complete the formation lap?

Well, him and McGoldrick are practically identical. Easy mistake IMO.

I think we're getting to the stage where we've discussed everthing in the universe, ever. The only topics left are quantum thermodynamics, the Slovenian mining industry and thousand island dressing.

Was watching SSNs goal of the month last season and it seemed to be a bit of a big four fest. Don't get me wrong, there were some quality goals in there (Machena's (sp?) debut against Villa, Adebayor against Villareal) but one of them was Ronaldo's daisy cutter against Villa. A well placed effort, but not in the same class as JPS free kick at Watford.

Caciedo managed 11 offsides altogether. Leon Best would have been proud. Looks like we have all German and all Ukrainian semi-finals. Kiev vs Hamburg my tip for the final.

Safri's strike was just as good, as was this one from relatively unknown Dynamo Kiev midfielder, Olexandr Aliev

Money + Weather + Real Madrid would be a much better team with Ronaldo.

Bit of fun, inspired by the Ronaldo thread. I can think of... GK: Niemi - Fulham - Didn't score, but that vollied assist is as close as we can get I think. RB: Dodd - Portsmouth - Direct from a corner CB: JPS - Watford - That free kick CB: Baird - Cardiff - Absolute screamer from a free kick. LB: Skacel - Yeovil - As above RM: Fernandes - Chelsea - Curling effort from way out in 2002 CM: MLT - Blackburn - Could pick from 10 really CM: Oakley - Portsmouth - Belter in the cup in '05 LM: Pahars - Man Utd - The one where he dribbled through the whole defence. ST: Channon - Liverpool - Best team goal ever bar none. ST: Beattie - West Brom - Absolute howitzer at SMS in 2003. Sure some of the older fans will be able to think of much better candidates.

Err... which part of that are you disagreeing with? Are you saying Ronaldo doesn't dive and cheat? P.S. It wasn't as good as Anders goal which knocked the Argies out the World Cup.

Ronaldo is a c*nt, but that was a belter.

I actually think Reb Bull are pretty quick without the DD. We still haven't had a proper race yet. We finished the first behind the safety car and the second with the remaining cars drifting slowly downstream. In Oz, Vettel would have been comfortably second without the safety cars and Webber would probably have been up there but for the first corner collision. Really hope things stay as they are at the moment. With Jenson winning, Toyota and Red Bull there or there abouts and Ferrari and Macca in total disarray. WOuld be nice for Kubica to get in the mix though.

Got my ticket today too. Good one aswell, row V. Anyone know the best place to park?

Those factors could have been predicted, yes it's a very good point. However the fact that nobody DID predict those events, doesn't nescessarily lay the blame at the Police. You could have the best laid out plan to deal with crowds (and I know the SYPD didn't) but things can still go wrong. For example, there were normally Police inside the grounds, directing fans to the further away pens and relieve crowd congestion. Under the circumnstances, with the stadiums as badly designed as they were, that seems like a very reasonable plan. Large crowded grounds, with pens, terraces etc. were common and 99.9% of matches were conducted with relative coordination and calm. It was just a few individual mistakes, like opening the exit, which triggered the tragedy. No amount of Policing and planning could have made stands like the Leppings Lane End in the 1980s 100% safe.

You seem to be just bundling the Police and the club into one big, 'evil people' group under the badge "authorities". Since when have the Police and stewards had anything to do with ticket allocation? This is the point I am trying to make, which seems to be repeatedly ignored by people who just want to blame the Police. There were several factors which when combined lead to the tragic accident of that day. This isn't f**king Auschwitz. The Police didn't force all the fans into the stadium and gas them. I'll try and explain this in the most basic way I can. ALL these things needed to happen for the Hillsborough disaster to take place: 1. The stadium was fundamentally flawed in that there were fences, terraces and insufficient turnstiles. 2. The largest section of the stadium wasn't allocated to the largest number of fans. 3. There wasn't sufficient Policing to control the number of fans. 4. The police made fundamental errors, most notably opening the exit and only allowing one ambulance on the pitch. 5. The traffic jam which delayed supporters, meaning everyone arrived at the same time. 6. The large number of fans, some fueled by alcohol, some without tickets, trying to force their way in before kick off. If ANY of these things hadn't happened, the disaster most likely would have been avoided. The Liverpool fans demands for justice are tragic in themselves, in that I'm really not sure what kind of 'justice' they hope to acheive. The Police were largely, but not wholely responsible. They were condemned by the Taylor report, they accepted they had some responsibility and the head of the S. Yorks Police offered his resignation. Short of public stonings or disbanding the Police force, I really do not know what outcome they're after.

Agree cage is unbelievably bad. I saw a trailer for that 911 film he did a couple of years ago. The trailer alone was nausiating. I don't think I could have sat through the film.