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More complete and utter ****e from a PLAYING legend. I remember when Dave Merrington wa sin charge and I think that was just about the worst Saints side I have ever seen (excluding this shower of ****e). Who can ever forget neil Maddison being played up front at Blackburn? Why can't people see......last season we escaped relegation by the skin of our teeth on the last day. We then lost several players and have been left with crap like BWP, Euell, Skacel and Saganowski on huge wages which meant we could not do much. The more senior players have come in and have been, quite frankly, a disgrace.

None other than Carlos Slim Helú. Apparently he is worth $35 billion and has followed Saints for some time as he thinks we are a sleeping giant with the greatest fan base and thinks we should be challenging for Champions League football. Apparently, he also wants to introduce Mexican food to the concourses to improve our catering. Supposedly this guy is in advanced talks to buy Saints - not only is he up against Mukesh Ambani but also some Americans by the name of Walton (who I believe own WalMart) and the founders of IKEA. Who wants a billionaire??

oh purleasssssee. An unknown poster on the TUI makes 1 statement and then many, many folks start wetting their pants over a completely unsubstantiated rumour. Do people not learn from experiences of the past.............

Looked quality pre-season but does not appear to play for the Reserves or U18's. Is he injured or is there some other story?

Some time ago when we were playing very young players there were huge shouts to play the more experienced players. Well this has happened and we've reverted to long ball crap and the experienced players are pretty much awful. On Saturday we had a wealth of experience in the side (not that you'd have known it): Davis Perry Seijs Skacel Wotton Euell Saganowksi For all Arizona's comments about Saga, he has been absolute crap once his goal scoring 'spree' ended and couldn't hit a barn door. For me I would have Mills over Skacel (what is it with the love in with Skacel: he's crap) Schneiderlin over Wotton Paterson/BWP over Saganowski and possibly Lancashire over Perry/Seijs. Now instead of being promising, easy on the eye crap we are just plain old crap and one dimensional!

I know of some (fairly) wealthy Saints fans that have been trying to put something together (on and off) for the past year. One of the guys I know personally and he is a great bloke - by all accounts, dealing with the complexity of the share holdings and feuding parties made it just too difficult to try and do any deal. I have no doubt that this guy is busy trying to put something together right now - a genuine nice guy and a massive Saints fan.

Wish I could say I was astounded at some comments on here (you know who you are) about how great it is we are in admin, we have our club back, etc but I'm not. Just wondering why there are heroes (Crouch & McMenemy) and then the obvious pantomime villains (Lowe and Wilde). Quite frankly, until the club is shot of all baggage (Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, McMenemy - the whole bloody lot of them) we'll never be able to move forward. They're all villains in my book, carryng out petty squabbling and pointless point scoring and fiddling whilst Rome was burning. Lowe made big mistakes, Wilde lied about investment, Crouch made fundamental errors of judgement and lied......quite frankly they are all as bad as each other and we need to be shot of all of them. Also didn't realise that Crouch worked for the Administrator....he seems to pop up everywhere saying 28 days left, hands in the pocket, etc, etc.

This is plainly baloney. A lot of what is being decribed on here is called a 'phoenix pre-pack'. The company I work for has just gone through this and it is quite a stressful experience. If anything like this happened we would get a 10 point deduction - assets are brought from an administrator (even if it is 5 minutes after entering administration). Some pre-packs are for the right reason (unjust court case sueing for money they know the company has not got) whereas a lot appear to be morally (if not legally) wrong. A good example being an IT company called Infonic. At the end of the day a lot of small creditors will take a hit in this scenario. Can't see how the FA would even sanction this.

If what Stu ha sposted is incorrect I hope he is held accountable. I'm sick to death of no marks on here spouting lies and slander as though they were fact. I am surprised that many of you look in the mirror - you wouldn't like what you saw. Pathetic, childish and does go to show that we have some (note the some) fans that are not what we need.

Great fans.................... A bit of perspective is needed and maybe some of the hysterical kids on here should think about that a bit more...........

WHo gives a monkeys arse what you think Alpine? Even if we were top of the Prem you'd still find something to moan about. Right now, the club needs everyone pulling in the same direction - we must be close to financial meltdown and as opposed to the 3 stooges fighting each other at least if they are trying to work together it will be for the good of the club as opposed to their egos.

As ever, making a futile gesture and not having one single, meaningful idea as to how to CHANGE the currently broken club. And if anyone says 'Lowe going will make things better' - absolute, 100% crap! Didn't happen last time did it? By all means, put forward a real, bona fide proper plan for taking the club forward - but to just call for the Boards head is pure, absolute madness. And please don't say Croouch and McMenemy are the answer. They, like Lowe and co, are part of the problem not the solution.

For all those wetting their pants over Saganowski....he was rubbish last season, did not set the world alight at Aalborg so don't expect too much. As Chez said....vastly overrated. And for all those Mcgoldrick knockers......he now has 10 goals and is on course for around 20 for the season. the same sort of number as Rasiak/John......the players who people think are God (for some unfathomable reason).

Perhaps, beacuse of what happened....... someone posted yesterday that Wotton had a go at McGoldrick in the tunnel before a game in front of both sides. And that he was not a good influence in the dressing room. Still.....don't let anything get in the way of your witch hunt eh guys??

Shock, horror....>Saints share price falls. In case some of you muppets haven't realised the whole world is in financial meltdown and virtually all share prices are dropping.

My god, just when you think this forum can't get any worse we have the schoolchildren arguing over JR and a fatal car crash. You couldn't make it up and to say it is in poor taste would be an understatement. Anything to have a pop at the current regime (players, management & board) seems fair game on here with the petty spitefulness and bitterness. And driving away sensible posters in their droves. Seems like quite a few on here live very, very sad existences and will pick over every single sentence uttered on the OS or anywhere else and look for a word or sentiment at which to start the petty, bitter tirades. Sure our club is really struggling, sure we have old board/new board not covering themselves in glory with their constant one-upmanship, yes the young team is struggling (but not all the time) and yes times are not great. But some need reminding this is only a football GAME not real life. There are far worse things happening in the world with people being hit by real tragedies - time to get a perspective methinks. How players not playing/out on loan suddenly achieve hero worship is mind boggling. Saganowski has failed at Aalborg (or they would want to keep him), Rasiak struggles to get a game at a very poor Watford side, John has 2 goals in 12 games for Bristol and Euell was eulogised by many on here when JP did not play him yet showed exactly why he was not played when he started. Whatever happens, the club will still be here - no matter what division we are in. And you know what......I have preferred the games where there have been smaller crowds this season because the support has been absolutely superb. Notice how the atmosphere changed(s) when the missing 1,000s turn up so they can get tickets for the Man U game. Don't see any sign of a boycott there.

They are all a bloody joke............... Chorley is rabble scum, together with that other rabble rouser McMillan (who is almost universally hated by other cab drivers). Crouch, McMenemy, Corbett, Lowe, Trant - they're all like little children in the playground and all seem to be fiddling whilst Rome is burning. They're all equally culpable for our current predicament and Wilde is a coward for not even attending. But then again, with the 'fans' we have I think we have all that we deserve.

My god, this place is like the Marie Celeste these days and no wonder! Posters like Navyred being forced out by the continual bitterness and shrewing of the crowd. Whenever we don't win a game, posters always have to find a scapegoat...be it McGoldrick, Lallana, Patterson, whomever - and most of those throwing the stones have not even been there to see the game! Why all the constant threads about Lowe? He's kept a low profile and it's about the team - our hands are tied by the Banks and we should be giving all our support to the young lads who are trying to move us forward. Yes, it's frustrating when we throw away 3 points like on Saturday but it's all part of the learning curve.....for those that preferred to watch last seasons overpaid, useless good for nothings......I am surprised. For goodness sake, get behind the team and manager instead of constantly slagging them off - for the first time in years we have a group of players who WANT to play for Saints rather than the money.

I'm with Chez on this one - thank God so many 'experts' on here have nothing to do with our team. McGoldrick ran his heart out yesterday - the real problem was with Robertson up front. After the Norwich game I thought we had a gem...since then he has struggled. Yesterday he could not hold the ball up, could not pass and was easily outmuscled. We looked far stronger when Patterson came on and he will only improve the more time he gets. There were times when he should have closed down their defenders with more enthusiasm/commitment but when he came on we looked far more dangerous up front. Likewise, when Gillett came on we started spreading the play far mroe than before.

Are you telling me Charlie that you believe this season is not better than last season? I can't believe you're saying that!

How exactly is it drivel you miserable SOB Alpine? Are you only ever happy when you're moaning? The point is these players are not world beaters and cannot even get in to their loan clubs sides.....and no, the sides are not any better. Watford are below us in the table.

Some interesting stats regarding our highly paid loanees that many feel would make us a good side: Rasiak Did not even make the bench yesterday and has scored 2 goals in 9 appearances (4 as sub) John Did not even make the bench yesterday and has scored 1 goal in 6 games (4 as sub) Saganowski Has scored 1 goal in 11 appearances (3 as sub) Perhaps these guys are not the panacea some think they are? All are past their best and having seen all 3 in pre-season (and this season) they cannot play in our new, fluid system. Quite frankly I would rather see Patterson or McGoldrick or White play ahead of these 3...they will only get better whereas those 3 will only get worse. None are doing well for their loan clubs as shown by the fact they are even struggling to get on the bench. Why on earth would we want them back?

Fantastic stuff....there's not many teams/players that would give up their Saturday evening for this sort of event. It feels like the spirit of Southampton is slowly returning - thanks to an honest, decent manager and a group of lads...most of who have been brought up from a young age playing for Saints youths, reserves and now first team.

yes it does Victor Meldrew - look at the text on BBC and see possession stats, shots on target, etc. You're a real beacon of hope amongst despair aren't you? This young team is getting better, are (on the whole) a joy to watch and want to play for Saints as opposed to their pay packets. We're not going to beat teams 6-0 every week......we have to be patient.

Sounds like we're murdering them but can't quite put the ball in the net. Hopefully second half we'll get the luck we deserve. Just think, Saints have had more shots on goal in the 1st half than they had in pretty much the whole of last season. Also sounds like Jamie White is having a good game for Shrewsbury (lots of shots) - hopefully he'll come back stronger and ready to step up to the 1st team.