angelman

Can't see it happening. The Yanks only want to watch the top teams. However, if it does, then I will not be renewing my season ticket and I will give up going to football, hoping the whole rotten ship sinks. Or maybe Bashley FC might be fun.

NFL is a completely different game (obviously) so don't see why PL should be treated the same. Next you will be saying that we should have one game played over a period of 4 hours as that's what NFL do.

Agree. Such a shame that money, the root of all evil, has ruined the beautiful game. I keep on threatening to give up on the game, yet I still keep on going. Even if I give up, there will be others to probably take my place. And really, Saints are an irrelevance. This is really for the benefit of Man Utd and Liverpool. Who in America is really going to look forward to watching us play against any of the teams that finished beneath us last season? Why would they? Why should they? If this is the way things are going, then maybe we would be better off in the Championship. At least things are more honest there and TV/money doesn't run the whole show (just part of it). Strewth, what would happen to the TV companies here if we or someone else managed to take one or two CL spots from the usual lot.

I think so. My old man has it, and I sometimes "borrow" "his" devices which have Sky Go on them.

Seems a lot of us are in agreement with you. Kick business out and get sport back. Players do not need to earn 6 figure weekly salaries, and that is where it has all gone wrong. Sky don't need to charge £50-70 a month. They don't need to pay PL £1bn over 3 years etc etc

But he's not that far from his family. Was told weeks before his move that his sister's fella got a contract at (IIRC) Crewe, and that was one of the factors in the move. May be rubbish......

Another nail in the coffin as football moves further and further away from it's roots. EPL is special because of the supporters (as games in Holland, Germany, etc are). Having been to a fair few games in Ligue 1 when I lived in France, away support was diabolical compared to most EPL games. Football represents the local community and going overseas you miss out on this very important point. And really, why do they need to do it? More money? Do we really need to make more money? Bastardise the game for the sake of a few pieces of silver? If it does happen, then I hope that the biggest crowd gets a 0-0 bore draw between Burnley and Leicester or who ever they are. And who gives a **** about NFL playing a game at Wembley? Different sport.

Whatever has happened, I'd love him back here.

This - just to recap...... Lallana Lovren Lambert Chambers Shaw

Hatred is a very strong word, and incorrect. This is a forum and a football one at that, so language is always going to be stronger than what people feel. Easy to blame bad PR, which to me is a convenient excuse. As it is, he should be in charge of what the PR get's up to and take personal responsibility. So bad PR is his fault. To me it started going downhill very quickly when, as still captain of SFC, he signed another team's shirt and said he hoped to be playing there soon. One might have thought he would have learned from that, but the train wreck still keeps happening. As a family friend, surely you could have given your advice to him to keep under the radar for a few months.

Very much this. We all know how shït the PL/football is these days because of the obscene amounts of money being chucked around. So why do we expect players, who usually aren't blessed with the greatest intelligence, to be able to conduct themselves in a manner that those of us outside of said bubble would understand. The more people are paid, the more surreal the bubble is. Of course this is a generalisation.... While I agree with the sentiment, lying is a strong word. The comments made were appropriate to make at the time of signing and were probably too effusive. Up until last season, I doubt he was anywhere near Liverpool's radar, but he had a great season and things changed somewhat. I whole heartedly agree that it is 2 way thing. Too many people say that we have got a lot out of him and he deserves to move on. As you point out SFC have put a lot into him to get him to where he was. While he might or might not have said he was going to refuse to play again, isn't it a case that he did refuse a pre-season friendly game to try and force a move to Wolves?

He doesn't half contradict himself. So he left because of ambition, but he had already reached the pinnacle of his career while @ Saints. It seems he doesn't really take the time to think about what he is going to say before he says it, so not surprised that some of the things he says come out the wrong way. Lesson in all this is not to say anything in the first place.

At the game, my pessimism is well know by those around me. But now that I am safely behind my keyboard, I get rather overly optimistic. Why can't we break into CL positions? Looking at last season, we were 24 points off. Below are the games where we could have secured more points. OK, we are not the "Invincibles" so not saying that we are going to win all the games, but would any think that it unlikely that we could have won some or all of those games? The loses at home: Villa, Cardiff, Spurs The draws at home: Man U, Stoke, Sunderland, Wet Spam The loses away: Norwich, Spurs (esp being 2-0 up), Wet Spam The draws away: Villa, Newcastle, Stoke, Sunderland Anyway, I don't think we will finish top 4, but what's the harm in dreaming that we will. Better than some who dream that we finish 17th.

"I'm an ambitious person." I do find it highly amusing that these players trot out the same trite lines about their ambitions only being able to be met by joining another club. What is more ambitious? Joining a club already in CL or a club striving to join CL? One needs a lot more hard work than the other, and one is clearly more ambitious than the other. And the bit about "with MP leaving as well"....WTF does that mean, save for grasping at pathetic excuses to try and justify his move and make him look like a good guy. And given the comments, as reproduced by S-Clarke, then there seems to be a huge volte-face, or flipping like a burger. He and Poch might well go on about loving the club, but you don't leave your wife and shack up with another bird and still say you love her. While it might make them feel better and an attempt to endear themselves to those that they have jilted, to me the words and hollow and disingenuous. Of course there are two sides to every story but it comes across as him not wanting to be thought of as a ****. I like the way that he uses MLT in the article - bit cynical if you ask me, but then I look at things from a Saints supporter's angle which is likely always to now be somewhat different to Lallana's view on things.

What has realism got to do with it?

Charlie, why don't you go and support Chelsea, otherwise you will ultimately be disappointed even if we have a great season, ie come 8th or 9th again. Of the posters here, you are up there with the most boringly pessimistic. Are you a Skate?

You actually forgot Le Tissier. It might well be a cliché, but how anyone can omit him is anyone's guess. He's probably the first person in the all star XI for most people.

Everything is theoretically impossible, until it is done. Robert A. Heinlein

For some reason you still fail to see the word GROWTH. What do you think growth is, and how do you achieve that? Given our current position, what do you think growth would mean for us? GROWTH - look it up in a dictionary if you don't understand what it means.

I think you do him a disservice. IIRC he was second to Thierry Henry one season in the scoring stakes, by about 1 or 2 goals. That was playing in a mid-lower table team. There were clamours for him to be in the England squad, but in those days, you really didn't play for England if you played for Saints. OK, he was never the best of the best, but he was a top player for a season or two.

Yes Charlie (I can't bring myself to attach Saint to your username), best you keep some of your thoughts out of public view as they are stupid. As it is, let's castigate a player for a bit of self-aggrandisement, why not? Maybe we would all have been happier for him to say that he is hoping to score 5 league goals and to finish 17th.

And? I've already committed to something 350 miles away on the Monday and Tuesday.

He's right though about a "bomb in English football". PL is crying out for someone to do it, well it is to me and anyone who doesn't support the top 7 teams.

Ah but then I would plan things around that. It's the moving of games that screws me.

****ing hate all these moves. Can't now do the Utd game. ****ers. Get games back to 3pm on Saturday. ******s.