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Whitey Grandad

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  1. There is a postscript to this story. Some thirty years ago my younger sister was involved in county athletics and one day called into a local athletics cub. There was a man behind the reception desk and she noticed that his surname was the same as our family. She told him that it was her maiden name and they chatted and soon established that our families were from the same area of Ponders End in north London. Then he asked her if she knew anything about his father. He had no photographs, no mementos, nothing at all because his father had been killed in the First World War when he was just a toddler. The following day she went back to see him again and saying "I've got something for you" she handed him the letter that his father had written in the trenches over seventy years before. My dad said that he realised then why he had kept that letter for all those years.
  2. My father was the youngest of his family yet when his father Ben was old and needed care it was my parents who looked after him. When he died in 1951 he left precious few posessions yet amongst them was a single letter, written in pencil on flimsy notepaper and sent to him by his younger brother Albert from the trenches in Northern France. My father couldn't bring himself to throw it away. This is the letter: ------------------------------------------ Dear Ben¹ & Lizzie It gives me much pleasure to write to you these few lines to thank you for the parcel. That came as a god send you cannot imagine what it means to get some clean food at such a time as I received yours. We were laying at an old factory when we got the order to move and our hearts sank to our boots, for it was raining hard and we knew we had a long way to go. We were marching for 11 hrs in a rain and snow storm and when we got to the trench it was up to the knees in mud and water -and it snowed all that night, we had no shelter whatever so you can guess what a terrible night we had. We stopped there all the next day. Then we were told to get ready to go over the top, 'another bit of luck,' we thought. Well, the time came and over we went, and over came fritz's shells but we carried on and on straight across to fritz's trenches, through them and over a railway line, over his gun pits which were built of concrete and into a village the other side, where we had to dig in. We stopped there for two days, then we were releived and came back to the railway line and we made shelter as best we could from the rain and also from the shells. That was where I was when your parcel came, so you can see how it was welcomed after dragging your food for about two mile through the mud you have not got much of an appetite for that for you have to have it in a sand bag and strung round your neck, and it is never in the best of condition in fine weather let alone the wet. Well there was four of us in the shelter and I was asleep when it came and they played a joke on me by dangling it from the top of the shelter, so when I woke I got the surprise at full strength and I can tell you I did! I layed looking at it a second or two wondering if I was awake or not, so you can tell what a god send that was to us. The others set about making a fire and getting some water and we all enjoyed that meal greatly and I have to thank you for them. I found the shilling alright, atleast my pall did in the sweets, and I was telling them that your boy was here when I had a letter come that is for Ben², so as it's addressed for the 23rd³ I will keep it as we are expecting a new draft and he may be in it, so when you write give me his proper address so that if he is not in the draft I can send it direct, otherwise he might never get it. Well I think this is all at present, except I have been very lucky up till now not being hit yet. I have only one pal left that came from Dover with me in my squad, the other poor chaps have gone under. So must close with all best wishes from Albert ------------------------------------------ His last few words have a sad poignancy. Eleven days after he wrote these words Albert and the 660 other members of his battalion lined up in no man's land at 03:45 in the early morning and attacked the German trenches just to the north of the village of Oppy. He never returned. Battalion casualties were 7 officers and 122 'other ranks'. He has no known grave and is most probably still lying out there in the one of the vast, featureless fields of the area. Albert married on the 8th October 1905. They had five daughters before at last Jenny had a boy Sidney on 3rd October 1915. We don't know how much time Albert had with his little son before he went to France and was killed before his son was two years old. (1) Ben & Lizzie were my grandparents, Benjamin and Elizabeth. (2) The letter 'that is for Ben' was for their eldest son, my uncle, also called Benjamin. He was 22 years old at the time that the letter was written. (3) the 23rd refers to the 23rd Battalion, The Royal Fusiliers in which Ben and Albert served. Young Ben was wounded twice during the war. Once when he was out in No-Man's-Land mending wire fences when a flare was sent up. Instead of flinging themselves to the ground as they had been taught he just stood there frozen. A german machine gun swept low across the ground and hit him in the leg. If he had been lying there as he had been trained then he would probably have been killed. On another occasion although they had orders not to talk he turned to say something to the pal to his side when a bullet went into his mouth between his teeth and out through his cheek. My father said that he carried a red mark on his cheek for the rest of his life. On the occasion of Armistice Day we can spend a few moments in quite contemplation of the unbelievable devotion, sacrifice and achievements of this generation. They did what they accepted as their duty with never a complaint and never a grumble. Will we ever see their like again?
  3. Did you think that up all on your own or did you just copy and paste it her because you like to show off?
  4. Not in America it isn’t. American English is a different variant of English and contains many spellings, words and idioms unique to them.
  5. No, the only reason we are in this situation is a misreadong of the figures. We cannot and should not lead our lives by thinking of the NHS in everything we do. We should all take care of our own health as much as possible. Out of interest, do you believe everything that comes out of the Government?
  6. It’s not the job of the public to protect the NHS. Quite the reverse.
  7. The images don’t show Bamford as offside with any certainty. Too much error there to give a clear decision.
  8. It’s always safer to drive out of the space forwards.
  9. Is she blowing him too???
  10. You are of course assuming that it was the lockdown that reduced infections rather than the warmer weather.
  11. He showed in his interview how pleased he is to be here and how much he’s enjoying his new life. It’s like he’s been let off the leash.
  12. We are a joy to watch.
  13. Only six more wins and we’ll be safe from relegation.
  14. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving case. In my opinion.
  15. Likewise. Two tickets, two games.
  16. Now here’s a question. How would we feel about winning the league but never having had a chance to watch the team live?
  17. I don’t think it was a mistake in that there was a general air of expectation that fans would be back in some form by October. But now, I agree, I can’t see this happening before next spring if at all.
  18. You are very unlikely to contract the virus out in the open air. Indoors, long exposure, poor ventilation That’s what you need to avoid.
  19. Good idea. Shame we won’t be able to spend the money
  20. I've had wounds that weeped too.
  21. https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/58355-villa-3-4-saints/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-2852629 I am having seeing pictures on this thread. Desktop PC, Windows 10pro, Chrome browser. What should be a picture is just neutral faint grey background. When I came to post a reply with a quote of a post containing a picture then the picture loaded ok. Good luck Steve.
  22. I completely agree. In the Salah incident he even had time to plant his foot back on the ground before doing a swallow dive. Was he touched? Yeah, so what. Was he tripped? Never in a million years. That Grealish dive was ludicrous and the referee was in a very poor position to see it.
  23. I disagree about interfering. Adams was at the far post and not interfering with any defender or anybody's line of sight. Liverpool and others have had siimilar instances overlooked. If Adams had touched the ball then he would have been offside A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by: interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or interfering with an opponent by: preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or challenging an opponent for the ball or clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
  24. I don’t think that Adams touched the ball.
  25. Oops. That should have been 12,000 deaths a week, not per day. 😬
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