Micky

Thanks Mike - would appear that we basically deserved what we got then - zilch...!! I wonder how this will effect things between now and the end of the transfer window as well - if we start to loose the likes of Kelvin, the season could become total embarrasment.

Errrr I didn't say any of those things for which you 'credit' me - I am just trying to substantiate how we played - it appears most of the comment here are from those who were not at the game. You need not bother reminding me about our predicament - I am well aware of that - as my previous post proves. If it makes it any easier for you - I didn't expect our league form to be much from what we are currently displaying. I expect us to be relegated - we have neither the players or management structure to do much else - if by some miracle we do manage to avoid it then that is a bonus. Perhaps now that you have ranted at me - we might discover just how the team played today - as I have asked on another thread was the performance shyte or just the result?

Did you ....?

Amongst all the hysteria currently occupying most threads on this board - I wonder if this comment is actually nearer both the truth and the facts?

I was out until the last 10 minutes - was the performance shyte or just the result..???

Did we play well...??

I dont think that they actually have a manager yet do they...???

Just got in - losing - damn - how are we playing - do we look like getting back into this... Edit: Ahhh right - I see, sorry all - forget that then... Guess I'll go back out again now then... Dooohhhh!!!!

There appears to be somebody else who will be at SMS today who also fears that clubs could suffer due to the amount of debt in the game: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Football-In-Recession-Big-Clubs-Could-Go-Bust-In-Credit-Crunch-Doncaster-Rovers-John-Ryan/Article/200901315204952?lpos=Business_First_UK_News_Feature_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15204952_Football_In_Recession%3A_Big_Clubs_Could_Go_Bust_In_Credit_Crunch%2C_Doncaster_Rovers_John_Ryan Being in the position he is - I would think that he is well placed to judge.

Time for some consistency methinks... hence: Southampton 2 V 0 Doncaster Rovers DMG to get 3 in 3, with Saga getting off the mark.

If thier surnames are Davies (Jnr(perhaps..!)) and Shearer - they'll do nicely Sir - sign them up...!!!

Well try to understand this - the amount of money that is being paid to make this deal happen is making headlines and raising eyebrows even in the lavish world of football. Just think what somebody, who has absolutely no interest in football, is thinking with regard to the current credit crunch. Here I am staving off the bayliffs, but 10 miles down the road a guy runs around a football field and gets paid 'alf a mil a week - mind boggling. For me, the issue is not about what 1 man is getting in regards to money. It is the chasm between the 'haves' and 'have nots' that is turning our league into a 4 team affair, with a few hangers on, and at the same time prostituting itself to all the top players in the world, while sticking two fingers up to the potential home countries talent. Yes it's a good league - but there is more to life than money.

Fair play to you Tim - nothing like backing your words with actions. Now can you pull your effin' finger out, lose all these MLS kids (I'm sure your on commission...!) and get us bloody Ronaldo, before the window closes. Do that, my friend, and you will have true legend status here..!

Very much so. Of course the problem will be should they fail to win trophies. The likes of Kaka are sorted for life financially, young and hungry for trophies. If City fail to deliver on the silverware - then I don't think it will take too long for 'stars' to look elsewhere for winning teams. For this revolution to work at City they have to win trophies (big ones) and that effectley means overhauling United - no mean feat if they manage to achieve it - but I have my doubts. I can't see them managing that in just a couple of years - and how long is Kaka and the like going to hang around waiting?

I think you might have missed the boat mate. This has absolutley nothing to do with business - it is not investment, because investors expect a return - there will be no monetary return on this buy. Show me how much profit Roman Abramovich has made at Chelsea since he has been there - errr absolutely naff all. The club is a 'plaything' for a very rich man (or men), who probably have no idea of economics anyway. They have so much wealth - economics mean nothing. Nobody is suggesting that anybody bails this country out - but in the current economical climate, where many members of this country are losing their houses to unscrupulous banks and lending companies - it is evident why such lavishness might irk with more than just a few - no?

Agreed - in financial terms he will be. But one of the main factors of him going there will be to entice other 'world stars' to join City as well. So in those terms he might justify just a little of his over-inflated fee and obscene wage bill.

I would tend to agree with a lot of the points you make - but the facts remain - that we fail to nurture lots of our home grown talent because of the amount of foreign imports that we invite to the party. This has a detrimental effect at grass roots level, and in the long term does absolutely nothing to promote either the National Team or English players abroad. Name me 10 foreign players currently playing in England - easy? Name me 10 English players currently playing abroad - eerrrr not so..! I have little problem with Sky relying on the commodity that is English football and pumping lots of money into it. The problem is, the spread of that money - it does not allow the small man to compete - and as a result the Premier League is dominated by 3 - 4 teams. Even in business circles free trade is generally encouraged whilst monopolies are widely frowned upon - yet we have our very own Tesco's of the Premier League. So yes Sky - keep pumping it it - but spread it around a little eh. Just think of how the likes of Bournemouth, Luton Town and many other smaller enterprises might benefit by just a little bit of the action. And, if as you say, the smaller man will soon not be able to play the beautiful game then we are indeed f u c k e d - and perhaps it is at this point that we should call time. I hope it never happens but as you have pointed out - the man in the street is in danger of being priced out of the very industry that he supported and spent many many years building, in order to finally be turned away as the next generation of toffs showed up. When (if) it does all go 'Pete Tong' - wait and see who the clubs turn to in order to try and flog their wares again.

I think that I made that clear in the first line of my last post...! As for the dress comparison - I'm struggling - do not see the correlation at all. Asides, Princess Diana probably did more for 3rd World Children than most others celebs will ever achieve.

Sorry to hear that it has gone 'titsup'. T'was not my intention to spoil the party, was just taken by the verment argument over who people should and should not vote for - I don't think Barrack campaigned this hard to get the Presidential vote...! Perhaps after the mod has cooled off he might rethink his decision - good luck.

Calm down mate - it's an internet poll - probably being enjoyed by about 100 people - if that. It wont be the end of the world if you don't get your own way. If the BBC can make such a flamming horlicks of SCD on national television with millions of people polling, and then manage to bodge it, I'm pretty confident that the Mods can come up with some kind of arbitration in order to restore parity here. If people are 'chucking their hand' as you put it, based purely on the fact that they are not going to get their own way - then perhaps they should go visit the real world occasionally.

I kind of agree - perverse as it may seem, but I would much rather be where we are now than where City are. Yes they are in the Premier League, yes they have millions of errr whatever to spend, yes they are buying the best players - but given all of that, is this real football. They are probably one of only 3 or 4 clubs that can now compete in this country. Such has the finance taken over the game that we now have our very own mini league in which just a very few are members. All we need now is another 92 Sugar Daddies and perhaps we can all be in the 'same' league. Am I interested in how City do this/next season? Not really, much more interesting to see how Luton Town do to be honest.

Paying 100 million to bring Jermain Wright back to SMS Let's face it, if we can afford that then we must have found a Sugar Daddy and all our problems are over ;:

Like - dream on...!

I think somebody is trying to wind you up - nay not trying - succeeding. I can see you, your face is red, your eyes bulge from thier sockets, steam eminates from your ears, you're pulling your hair out, your head is about to explode....!!! The John Sergeant debacle must have driven you to distraction...!

Exactly - and he knows if he starts to sell - he aint going to get anywhere near his 200 back. When you look at the debt in the Premiership, if the bubble were to burst - we would probably be quite an attractive 'investment' (and I mean that in the proper meaning of the word) proposition.