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lovern reminds me more of Mark Wright. Strong in the tackle and decent in the air but can also bring the ball out of defence comfortably and can pick a pass.

He's a good squad player but to be blunt the only centre half we have that would get into any other top 10 side is Lovren. Fonte had had a good season but in truth is our weakest defender and we should be looking to improve on him. Yoshida then relegated to 4th choice or moved on. Hopefully Turnbill or Stephens will start to push for the squad soon. People keep saying Hooliveld has lost it. The truth is he never really had it. He is little more than a competent championship centre back and I said as much when we were in that divison. He's a good guy and tries his best but the level we want to get to, indeed are at now is far above his ability.

He was a championship winner, Shame we got him 13 years too late!!

Don't forget Christian Dailly! ian Pearce in on loan, played once got injured, never played again.

Yeah, he was the Danny Fox of 2008. Not a very good player but to give him his due always gave 100% and was one of whiskey George favourites.

Another player that gave you hope it was never too late to get spotted and fulfill your childhood dreams. Remember walking through town one night drunkly singing 'if Jermaine Wright plays for Saints so can I" ended up disappearing to the non leagues.

Sign a pacey wideman and get it in the mixer earlier.

Not an academy product, he was signed by Chris Nicholl when he was about 20. Very good defender, was gutted when he left.

You're doing very well at taking up the role dull drums performed with such aplomb. That of offering little to nothing yourself, just sarky comments here and there and trying to take the p*ss out of others opinions. Well done you, I bet your little specs are steaming up wit excitement.

Because one of the key things that would give my life meaning is if a load if helmets on an anonymous mongboard don't think I'm a helmet.

The funniest thing about it is some of the mugs on here, like you, still take it seriously

I admitted I made that up for a wind up.

No one said he was.

NO mate, i'm just pointing out that depsite consistantly being called a troll and talking bo*ocks i'm right an awful lot. THe reason for this is i do my research, speak to people more ITK than i am and also understand the game ratherly than blindly dismissing everything i dont want to hear as bo*locks and everything i do want to hear to be the gospel truth.

they've started together 6 times and scored a goal each. Hardly a stunning return. In the big games when both have been fit and we've used one striker Osvaldo has started.

Because AlwaysSFC said the other day i talk a lot of sh*t, again for someone that does i seem to get a lot right.

Osvaldo has been picked ahead of Lambert for all the big games when fit has he not?

I presume you are referring to me, which is interesting because as a usual tool posting agenda driven garbage I seem to get an awful lot of things right. I remember being shouted down on here well over a year ago for saying that all was not well between Adkins and Cortese and that he was a dead man walking, this was trolling and agenda driven garbage according to some. The same thing was said when i mentioned that Adkins wasn't in control of transfers and had little idea who was coming in and who was going out, again the agenda driven garbage i was told it was was turned out to be correct. Apparently i had an agenda when i dared to say in the run up before Osvaldo signed that it was ironic that when alot of Saints fans were celebrating "Saints legend" Lambert scoring for England whilst at the same time practically begging the man who would replace him in the first team to sign. This was trolling too, they were going to be playing together and if anyone was going to be dropped it'd be Rodriguez again how has that one turned out? It's funny how someone who is meant to be a troll and spouts agenda driven garbage poorly dressed up as an opinion is right so often isn't it.

So when i said that we need to invest in the squad to progress and you gave your usual sneering response you actually agreed with me. Glad we cleared that up.

True, good example. Ozil, Cazorla, Padolski, Giroud, Gerveniho, Arteta, Oxlainde-Chamberlain and Per Mertesacker most definitely didn't sign for them in the last 3 seasons for large to massive fees. He trousered the money and tried getting more out Henry Lansbury.

I'm not convinced hooliveld is 4th choice, he's been picked ahead of Yoshida a number of times So just to confirm, they don't need replacing or improving on, all we need to is get more out of them, yes?

Can the be the one to crack the hilarious 'that means we'll lose' gag, please?

Hooliveld, Fox and Yoshida are most definitely squad players. According to shurlock we need to get more out of them, they don't need replacing. So how has getting more out of them gone so far?

Fair point, we've done that well. Now we need to get more out of our squad players like hooliveld, Fox, Gazza, Yoshida. How's that going?

HOw else do you progress if you dont improve th squad with better players then?