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Exactly. Many current labour supporters seem to believe that this is because either those who voted tory were stupid, they went for the easy option, are overly influenced by the media or are heartless and selfish and only care about themselves. The real answer is that most people are generally decent people who didn't buy what labour were offering and they don't want a left wing government who bow down to the unions and are anti business. Characterising all Tory voters in this way (as labour voters like to do) doesn't help the debate and certainly isn't going to persuade them to change their vote in the future. Labour need to start offering something that people want other than "we are nicer to vulnerable people and the disabled." of course that's a good thing but unless they do something else other than say how despicable the tories are then they won't win an election.

The fact is that people don't currently want what labour are offering. After the election was the time to step up and show that they had compassion but also that they were pro business and had learnt the lessons on economic policy. Instead they have gone in the opposite direction. Anyone who complains about the Tories should realise that Labour are just as much to blame. If they sorted themselves out and offered something worth voting for then they would probably win but you can believe it's because people just find it easy to vote for the tories if you want. It's not true in my opinion.

No offence mate but before he election you were harping on about how evil the tories were and how they weren't going to get elected and you were badly wrong.

I'm guessing you have zero knowledge of the childcare sector. I've also never said that, I simply said that I wasn't prepared to raise childcare costs any higher for families who find it a struggle as it is. The government should either keep tax credits or pay a proper rate for hourly childcare.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. "it's all those thick idiots who believe all that right wing stuff." heaven forbid that people weighed things up and made an intelligent choice that the labour party simply were not the party they wanted to lead the country (and they still aren't.) it's your attitude primarily that turns people off from the left.

I think the tories should care more but they are currently the only party that is realistic about things and doesn't go off into some fairyland world or be motivated by the politics of envy. The article was saying that although he is a reluctant tory, he believes that disastrous labour policy would have been a lot less caring because it would have turned out a whole lot worse. I agree with him.

Good article. Encapsulates perfectly why the tories won.

Referred for appeal so a real possibility the conviction could be quashed (according to the analyst on radio 2 anyway.) Big if but if it were to happen I wonder if people's opinions would change? Certainly some people in the media and some of the mentalists shouting 'rape apologist' will look a little silly. Just underlines the point that the jury system is certainly not infallible regardless of the verdict being quashed.

I think we are doing alright- Chelsea are just playing well.

It your on kodi it's one of the first things you see when you sign in.

Yeah about 2 minutes before I think.

Click on premier league pass if you have sports mania.

Sportsmania is a great stream today

It was two people.

I really couldn't be bothered.

Just say women.

Jimmy Saville did that and it didn't end well.

What's the song?

Or just go on there when you want to talk to anyone rather than reading through what idiots say?

Try sportsdevil as well. That has loads of streams and is my alternative when sportsmania isn't working.

Jon

Fantastic so far. Exactly what we need to get this season started.

Anyone else find it an ironic that an American is lecturing the UK about being the world's moral compass?

4 down for Sussex and 50 to go for us. We could do this!

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