Out of interest, where do you get your patches from? I use pesgaming.com but i sometimes dont know if theres a better website out there...?
FWIW every year i download one of the two games and always buy the one i like most for the online gaming side of it. I installed Fifa tonight and then the first thing i noticed that my joypad was not compatible for it (to which I had to download a 3rd party patch)... Fifa never changes, the main problem is the ball physics. Funnyily enough ive not played fifa consistantly since Fifa 2002.