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I ain't a Christian mate. Instead I'm open minded and tolerant of Christians and people of other faiths. I'm also tolerant of atheists and agnostics, but only when they are respectful of the rights of others to pursue faith. I'm intolerant of idiots who dare to suggest that people who have faith are idiots for having it.

I have. You've now agreed that a) priests don't promote rape and the killing of others, and b) that the current message of Christianity is not one of approval of rape, infanticide, and genocide. Well done. You then gave your opinion that Christians are rewriting Christianity and that you believe that Christians "don't need God". I won't have a debate with you about that, but I will highlight the absolute arrogance of you daring to suggest that Christians (I'm not one for the record) "don't need God". If they feel that they do, then leave them to it.

When I asked you 7 million posts ago if you believed that the current message of Christianity was one supporting rape, and killing, you said yes. I'm glad you've done an about turn but it's a shame that it's taken so much effort.

Hallelujah!! Flowing from that, do you now accept that the current message of Christianity is not one of approval (I'll stop short of promotion as that upset you) of rape, infanticide, and genocide? Again, yes or no.

Do you accept that priests, who talk about Christianity and the Bible, don't and wouldn't promote or advocate killing another or rape? 1 word only is required - yes or no. Nothing more.

I refer to my previous post mate. Only an idiot would not be prepared to accept that village priests don't promote rape and killing.

Bless you MLG. I'll end this with you now, it's tedious. If you haven't got the grace to concede that priests do not promote rape, genocide and infanticide; and seemingly the existence of the deadly sins, then there's no point carrying this on with you.

Dunno mate. I'm not a church man either, but I would bet my £20k to your 20 pence that the priest would more likely say love thy neighbour, not rape thy neighbour. Re Turkish comments, he's a big boy and can look after himself. That said, his reference to the whole context of the bible is highly relevant. Have a read of that list of deadly sins and then consider just thou shall not kill alongside MLG's belief that the bible promotes killing. Then go a stage further and take an educated guess as to which of those 2 messages the vicar is actually promoting.

Another one that feels that pursuing religion is "idiocy". Given your prejudice and narrow mindedness I'll ignore you.

No he's not. He's given his interpretation of an ancient book. He says that his interpretation is the message that is still being given. He could say that even if his interpretation is correct, that he acknowledges that his interpretation of the book is not the message being given to Christians in village churches by Old men in cloaks.

I've asked you whether you feel that the current message of Christianity is to promote rape and genocide etc. You say that it is. When I ask where and how that message is being distributed you simply refer to the bible. That's an ancient scripture. It's not the current message. You will not find a village priest standing up on a Sunday telling the congregation to rape their neighbour or kill their newborn infant will you. If you seriously think that's the message being given then you're crazy.

Unless I misunderstand you, it appears to be your point that UK travel over distance is ok. If that isn't your point, then what is it? Your first point is nonsensical. Covid is rampant in the UK. Explain how someone who is showing no symptoms coming in from an overseas hotpot like Milan is any more or less of a danger than someone without symptoms travelling around the UK from a UK hotpot. The reality is that they are an equal risk, hence the attempt at locking down internal travel.

I have focused on what I have focused on as I have no wish for a wider debate on religion with you or anyone. MLG has made a point about his understanding of the message of Christianity today and I've asked him to explain it. Nothing more.

Of course there is Christianity today. Religion hasn't gone anywhere. There are still Churches and priests etc. MLG believes, bless him, that in whatever format Christianity exists today that it promotes rape, genocide and infanticide. I'm merely asking that HE as the person saying that kindly explains how and where it is doing that. He won't, cos it doesn't happen, but having made his point I'd like him to explain.

So you agree with MLG that Christianity, here and now, promotes rape/genocide/infanticide etc? If so, how is the promotion being done and if it's not the priests in churches, how is that apparent message being delivered?

MLG is talking about the here and now. He says that Christianity, today, promotes rape, infanticide and genocide. I just want to know where, here and now, the Priests are dishing out the evil message that MLG talks about. What happened in WW1 and WW2 is irrelevant to what MLG believes is happening today.

It's absolutely the point. Don't travel, stay local when it's necessary for food/medicine /excersise, and don't visit friends / family is a pretty simple message. I have to say that you confuse me. You appear to advocate travel from hotspots in the UK but not from hotspots overseas. On one hand you understand the risk, but on the other seem oblivious to it. Make your mind up.

No idea but I don't see the relevance. MLG says that right here right now Christianity promotes rape, infanticide etc. Priests are the public mouthpiece of Christianity, thus on MLG case, they spread messages of rape, infanticide. In the real world all sane people know that doesn't happen. I'm just waiting for MLG to acknowledge that.

That makes perfect sense. Did God create microwaves too, or was that Panasonic?

Amen

I'm more interested in why toasters got added to the thread title, and what gets added on next. I vote cheese.

Yes, Johnson. That's a full house.

No...much more recent...

No, only played there once I think. American slang...

Yeah, or (Simon) Charlton. That was a sh1te one to be fair.