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That is not a positive in the wrong hands. We've spent plenty of money, and bought the shit show you mention. I agree though that Juric, on paper, is decent.

Agreed...I was adding to MLG's points.

All valid points, but you overlook fitness and commitment.

I don't disagree. He's worth keeping for next season, and needs a loan for the remainder of this imo.

The criminal context is one approach to definition, and as you've read, there are others. For the purposes of the discussion, I repeat that I couldn't care less whether Islamaphobia amounts to racism, but to mind (and many others) it is. I see you liked that video which tried to argue that Islamaphobia isn't a thing. I know that you recognise anti semitism as a thing, so I assume that you similarly agree that Islamaphobia is a thing (regardless of whether it's racism)?

We'll have to agree to differ on this. Islamaphobia is a thing, anti semitism is a thing, racism is a thing. They're all unacceptable.

Look hard enough and you'll find arguments for and against. The concerning thing for me, as per that video, is the willingness of some not just to say that Islamaphobia is not racism, but to seek to argue that Islamaphobia is not a thing. That's nonsense.

Discrimination is discrimination. The title is just that. If someone is discriminating by skin colour they're racist. If they're discriminating a Jew then they are anti semitic and probably racist. If they're discriminating a Muslim then they're Islamaphobic and probably racist. If the probably part is wrongly attributed, it makes no difference to the presence of the actual prejudice. Streeting - https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/15/islamophobia-racism-definition-free-speech-theresa-may Baddiel re Anti semitism/racism -https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/david-baddiel-whoopi-goldberg-antisemitism-holocaust-the-view-b980696.html I also read an article in I think the Jewish chronicle on the issue. I'm with you re wiki as such being an authority, but the scholars who express a view are no less of an authority than Baddiel or Streeting. Here's the link if you have a change of heart - under the racism heading - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamophobia#:~:text=Several scholars consider Islamophobia to,Turkic and anti-Arab racism

You're making a pointless point. You agree that Islamaphobia is unpleasant. There's plenty of commentary on Wikipedia if the detail excites you, and Wes Streeting wrote an article years ago stating the case for it being racism. Whether it is or isn't though is an irrelevant detail imo - racism, anti semitism, Islamaphobia, etc, are all forms of discrimination against groups of people.

I'm not what point are you trying to make. If by some people's interpretation, Islamaphobia is not a form of racism, it's no less unpleasant. The same applies to anti-Semitism. On the latter point, David Baddiel once wrote that 'jews are racialized whether they like it or not' and I think the same applies to Muslims.

I'm not getting into an MLG style discussion with you. Others have covered it.

No trolling Hypo. You've shown yourself time and time again to be islamaphobic. That's what's 'sad and unfortunate'.

I didn't think they played him wide left though as we have? Regardless, his touch his poor, he lacks pace, and for me just doesn't look like a PL level player.

As I say, stung by the definition.

Ha!! Love the defensiveness. I think the definition has stung. Islamaphobia is a form of racism.

16ft I think, so about 5 m. I never went above the 3rd board. Too much of a wuss to go any higher.

I'd want loads of music, then everyone eating and drinking at my expense. Eulogy - Frank Turner Asleep - Smiths (there is a light is also a great shout by Turkish) Here comes the Sun - The Beatles

I understand his point. I also know that he is unnecessarily quick to blame the Muslims. He's not alone.

I don't assume that a particular religious group is at fault. Await the facts, the discuss. It's not complicated if you can keep your assumptions to one side. I have no fear of being accused of islamaphobia as I am not islamaphobic. I think some on this forum are though.

Yes. No colour., creed, religion amongst that. When those facts are known then those facts can be discussed. Most people don't come onto a forum posting their assumptions about those absent facts.

Manners have nothing to do with you rushing to blame a group of people before awaiting even the basic facts. I didn't realise you actually expected a comment on your daft mcvities analogy.

That's untrue. You did not know whether the German guy was brown/white or whatever before you jumped in. To be fair, you showed a little restraint this time. I rely on facts/evidence on a case by case basis. You make assumptions, and you protest too much as to why.

Ankersen is a shareholder/part owner.

The issue is people assuming before any details are known. There's a few who rush to blame Islamists before knowing whether the perpetrator was indeed Muslim. Some may say that's a reasonable assumption, others see it differently.

If you're referring to Ankersen, he is an owner. As for NC, what he did ain't any better than you describe.