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Yep, the crowd laughing said it all. That and Rwanda are 2 of the most desperate policies of recent times. Starmer needs to do more to sway the swingers imo.

I wish he did...desperate I think, sadly.

Didn't see it until about 920. Both were irritating, but Sunak at least answered questions. I'm none the wiser where Starmer is on defence, or on how he'll deal with gangs in France or elsewhere. He disappointed me, and Sunak's summary of him wasn't inaccurate.

Hair

You're hardly encouraging that they continue, and criticising those that protest. If people care enough, and do it in the right way, I'm not sure why you'd sneer from behind a keyboard. Leave them to it.

Why people protest is a question for protestors, or an application of common sense.

That England team is a right mess. Unless it's a back 3, Alexander Arnold in midfield, and christ knows who at full back apart from Trippier on one side.

You're back on that again. People can protest about what the fuck they like mate.

None of that means that protests should stop. That's not up to you.

Daft stance whoever is suggesting it.

Are you suggesting that protests should stop when it seems that it's not helping?

Is your info from a source other than Reed? If it is, I'm interested. His perception, I'm not.

Sure, it's possible that it was Lallana at fault, or the club, or both. What I never understood at the time though, and still don't now, is why the masses assumed that the line fed from the club was the correct one. I don't believe it was.

Absolutely. Staggering that the fans swallowed the bs as gospel.

I'm unsure whether you lean more towards a superiority or inferiority complex Whelk. You're strangely inconsistent, but plainly not as bright as you initially present as.

It seems that everything is a great argument if it aligns to your views, and a shocker if it doesn't. On your first point, have a little think what the thread is about. It's only by your metric, and a few others, that people can't express a contrary view to yours on the actual subject without aspersions being cast. Frankly, that says more about you than me. What's happening in Ukraine is appalling, but the scale on a proportionate basis isn't on a par with what's happening in Gaza. In you think otherwise, I'd be staggered. Re Ukraine, I've tried joining that thread but there's a few (you being one) who haven't got a clue (telling us ages ago that Russia were all but out of ammo and hardware, cos that's what you were hoping for) so discussion was pointless. Re the last point, your posts are littered with suggestions (the post that I'm responding to being a case point) that people who take a contrary view have an ulterior motive or similar. The ulterior motives, consciously or otherwise, emanate from you and people with your views. That bloke in the video that Whelk linked being another. The message is simple, and stupid - your views aren't valid unless you show outage against other appalling situations.

I thought you'd be horrified by their exclusive public support for an isolated cause Whelk.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj772xzl3xdo Outrageous, speaking out about and contributing to this cause without one word about any other conflict, and not one penny to another cause.

You know it.

My best guess is that Toby has carveries but that doesn't help solve the conundrum.

Vanilla

Millwall? Cheeky sods.

The video wasn't about that. It was a bloke telling women that they can't support Palestine unless they join his condemnation of Muslim practices. It was biased and a blatant attempt to oppose protest. I have no interest in a discussion about the rights and wrongs of religious practices, plus it's irrelevant to this topic.

Ok, so Jewish. Doesn't alter his biased opinion.

Nope, this is a thread about one specific subject so I'll confine my views to that subject. Daft to suggest that I shouldn't. The relevance of his being half Jewish is obvious - he's biased, and that comes through in every word he speaks. It's an attack on muslim practices - similar type of talk from a Muslim (or anyone) against Jews would quite rightly be condemned as anti Semitic.