S-Clarke

This is true. Dyche was well called for on here, but he was sacked by Burnley after all but relegating them. Even Poch, who was always a non-starter, has been sacked numerous times. Ditto Tuchel. Ditto Koeman, Adkins, etc etc. If people are against a manager getting appointed because he got sacked previously then your shortlist will probably be 0.

I think this is my general take on it, it's a sensible choice in the context of everything. I couldn't really see the sense or logic in jones, even before he was appointed, I tried to get behind him and believed we'd seen something in him but it was very difficult. Marsch is the opposite as I can see the logic as to why we'd go for him, there is some sense to it. He totally has my backing and I hope he can bring some genuine positivity to the group and the fan base. We just need some hope again, if he's 10% better than Jones then we'll be chuffed. The club just need to forget the last 3 months, the biggest cluster fuck ever. It happened, it’s put us in a perilous position but now we have a chance to regain some hope again, not just short-term but long term.

A wonderful marketing oppertunity.

Ralph is another emotional shout, same as Poch and Adkins. No real footballing realism to them, just people that have done 'well here' before. We made the decision to move on in November, whether that was right or not is up for debate, but you don't go back on that 3 months down the line.

I'm sure a quick log on to his bank account will cheer him up no-end.

That's quite telling to read, it's just identical to what we just saw. It's impossible to see how players could have any respect for this bloke. He reeks of someone with imposter syndrome, he knows he's out of his depth but has no idea how to fit in. So by default goes back to his Luton days as that’s all he knows.

JWP has had a hair cut.

Steve Bruce is going to be our new manager, and also Leeds new manager. Just waiting to see who gets tails on the toss.

Absolutley, it's a bit full circle really. It just shows that IMO we should have just stuck with Ralph and backed him in the January window, I'm absolutely certain he'd have picked up more points from our run just gone. We couldn't have done any worse!! But Marsch will put us back on somewhat of a strategy again after the weirdest 3 months I've had supporting this club.

The Poch and Adkins chats are just emotions talking, I can't believe they are serious suggestions. All roads point to Marsch, unless we go totally left field and recruit Luton's manager.

He's gone quiet, I reckon he's spontaneously combusted with this news.

I understand what you are saying in respect of 'holding fire' until the summer, and it's something I'd support as well if we chose to do that - but that is somewhat writing the season off and it doesn't look as if the club want to do this yet. I probably sound like Marsch's agent or something, but even though he did irritate me when he was Leeds manager, I can totally see the logic in grabbing him now. Let's not forget that this guy is a long-term target for us, this isn't a two second Rasmus spreadsheet pick, he was a target long before SR. The club liked what they saw in the past and felt he was a good fit if we were to replace Ralph, but the pieces didn't line up in regards to timings and when he turned up at Leeds we probably thought we'd lost our chance. The door has somewhat unexpectedly been opened again now, he's unattached and is someone who would get behind a long-term project rather than a short-term fix. If we hold fire then that door will probably shut again, and I think he's someone the club genuinely want and have for a while. When we appointed Jones it didn't make any sense, he didn't align with the style we were promoting or the players we were signing. Marsch makes much more sense in how he approaches and practices football, so I can certainly see the appeal.

That was such a terrible game of football, so dull.

Should have kept Jones by that logic given that he won manager of the year in that league. 'Experience of the championship' is entirely overrated.

That's certainly how I'd call it FF, he wasn't as heavily disliked as some may have you think. He wasn't perfect at all and he will irritate some, but like other's have said we haven't got the choice of everyone in front of us and in terms of players, philosophy and fit....he's pretty much ticking the boxes.

I've just heard two people do exactly that!

I think some of our fans are nutters, and I don't include you in that MB, even if you twirl your nipples in front of a mirror. But people turning their nose up at Marsch and then suggesting Tuchel and Sam Allardyce, then moaning about our recruitment and proclaiming Brighton have established world cup players in their team - why don't we do that? Did they not realise that McAlistair was bought as a young kid from Argentina and took time to break into their side? (he was loaned back out before he came through). Sorry, just irritates me. Carry on with your show MB.

It worked though to be fair. I find forums to contain the more extreme views of a fan base, at both ends, you'll get more balanced views when you speak face to face with people. I'm just saying what I've heard from a guy who supports Leeds, and to be fair it's echoed by a few others on here. Let's not kid ourselves, he's a typical annoying yank full of cliches and bollocks about rosters and soccer, but he was brought into keep Leeds up last year and he did it.

The people who are turning their nose up at Marsch are then suggesting Poch and Tuchel. Let's be real for just one second. Fan expectations seem absolutely skewed, not sure what's caused it.

He was fundamentally sacked for not getting the results, that's the only fact. Leeds are split on him, he is not as universally hated as some make out and a lot of their fingers point at Orta, their bat crazy DoF/Owner/Manager or whatever he wants to be today.

Russell is having a miserible time at Swansea though, so I'm not sure how he would be any better than Jones. I genuinly don't know why people are so strongly against Marsch, yet in the same breath talk up Russell Martin and Gerrard.

I wouldn't say he's out of his depth in an ability sense, but he needs to have the right players around him otherwise he can be gobbled up. If he's got that protection around him and he has the space to operate, technically, he's superb. He can spot a pass, play a pass, has a great engine, great long range shot on him and is a great technician of the football - but his physicality means that he gets gobbled up if we're weak in there, i.e. he's a alongside Diallo or a half fit kid! We missed a trick not keeping Romeu, and Rasmus did admit that was something they wouldn't have allowed if they could turn back the clock.

I work with a Leeds fan so I thought I'd ask, he liked him. Said he brought some togetherness last season and their issues this season have been heavily down to luck, not so much what he's doing wrong. (although he did bring up the narrowness of his game) He felt he had to go based on results, as it’s a result business, but the bigger picture shows him as being unlucky rather than out of his depth or dreadful.

What does anyone know about Gallardo? I'm generally interested. I don't know a great deal about him, I've heard he's done a lot at River Plate and doesn't speak English - why is he so rated? I've never seen the bloke manage a team. Why would you look at Russell Martin and Gerrard ahead of Marsch? That's crazy. I don't see any of those names as viable alternatives to Marsch, some of them are 10x worse.