S-Clarke

Always the same sorts bouncing them too.

That's the profile of the player we needed, in a physical sense. We lack presence in the middle of the park, it's easy to forget how many headers Morgan won in midfield as well - he was quite a unit and had a presence about him. Clasie, i don't know what he is. Too early to come to any sort of conclusion, but he needs to take some growth pills or something as he looks totally unsuitable for this country at this moment in time.

Can people just let this one go? He's clearly finished here and has been for at least 18 months. Let's just forget he exists and he'll drift away in January as expected. Pointless debating it.

Well, we've never panicked and gone out and bought in January, or sold for big money in January, so I don't see a thing changing. Maybe a loan or 2.

Saint Charlie is having a field day tonight, loving it.

The reactions to Yoshida have always been over the top. He's not a right back, granted, but he's always done a job at CB for us and he at least knows the position. Less can be said of Caulker.

Can't really be a knee-jerk to be honest, he has been that bad. not just this game, but the last 3 seasons. He's trash.

So that's not 6 years ago then? But people seem to be jumping slightly overboard right now. 3 games we've lost in a row, before that we'd had a terrific run. Under MP we had a trash run which resulted in us being kicked out of the FA Cup, being thrashed by WHU and losing heavily to Liverpool at home.

You've got a short memory.

I never want to see Caulker play in this team again, ever. Sod off back to QPR. Trash

He's L1 standard though.

To be fair, the first 15mins were pretty good. Could have had 2 in that time, after they scored we lost our way.

This is a match thread about the liverpool match, which is happening tonight. None of that is relevant to the situation right now.

Wanyama isn't playing any different than he has, he just doesn't have that shield next to him. Any player would miss someone like Morgan next to him, we simply didn't replace him and there is a hole for sure.

3 horrendous goals. 1st was poor by Caulker, needed to be stronger and use a bit of common sense. 2nd was an absolute **** up between Cedric and Caulker, who didn't seem to know what county he was in. The third was poorly cleared and a scuffed shot, which should have been saved really, went in. 3 rubbish goals and we have created our own downfall.

What's he done wrong?

Games just pass Clasie by, too weak. Cannot impose himself at all, we're kind of playing with 10 men - he's that ineffective. Caulker is just poor, but he has been relegated twice, so no surprise really.

Maybe we can play Fonte in midfield and Mane at left back.

He did actually pickup yet another injury, he's just a pointless waste of wage.

What about the 25 he scored for Reading in a single season?

They had some body scanners outside some turnstiles, but were only picking people on random. So not entirely sure what help that did at all. 2 people in front of me went into the turnstiles with rucksacks, not checked, as the steward was too busy doing random body scans.

That first half was a diabolical mess to be honest. No shape, no movement, no cohesion, no passing, nothing. 2nd half was a bit better as we at least gave it a go, but if we're honest it probably should have been at least 2-0 to Stoke, they created the better openings. Credit where it's due, they came and played well. Defended well, were organised and played the perfect away from home counter attacking game. Not really much to be positive about really.

It's really impossible to judge anything on this game, although it won't stop the media going OTT. IMO the french players didn't want to play this game, their demeanor suggests that their minds are elsewhere (as expected).

Up to 20 people dead, terrorist attacks on going in central paris. Gunman still on the lose apparently.

Wouldn't have thought anyone will be let out of there for a while...