Lord Duckhunter

If you take no deal off the table, don’t you effectively hand the EU a veto on whether we leave or not. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Did you watch Portillio & Alan Johnson take apart some Tory birds second referendum pitch. Although she was fit, she got schooled by those two. Portillio although a Brexiteer, was against a vote stating beforehand that in a parliamentary democracy a party advocating leaving in their manifesto was the way to leave, and Johnson ran Labour Remain campaign, so these aren’t ERG types. Anyway the point they stumped her on was the question, Remain or ?. What was the “Leave “ option. It couldn’t be May’s deal because that couldn’t get through the house and was so heavily defeated that a few tweaks still wouldn’t get it through. Remain politicians claiming no deal is Armageddon with people dying, food shortages, medicines running out, hundreds of thousands of jobs being lost, etc etc, ruled that out. How can you seriously say all that, and then say “but you can vote for that if you want”. They’ve all been piously stating their working in the national interest to vote down May’s deal or stop no deal. They haven’t said no deal is the worst option but I’m sure we’ll be fine, but worse off. They’re saying things that if they believe are true, can not be contemplated as an option. So this only leaves another deal or a major change to May’s deal. In either case it’ll need EU approval, but also be able to pass in Parliament. If it can pass in Parliament the impasse has been cleared, negating the need for a “people’s vote”. Remember, those supporters are claiming they’re not trying to re run the original referendum just throwing it back to the people because parliament can’t get a deal through. By putting the Leave option on a second ballot, they’re showing that a version of Leave can get through. So why need a new vote. Of course they’ll then have to pivot to telling the truth, that they actually want to reverse the decision. Johnson then claimed Leave would win and win by more in that case. It was the best anti “people’s vote” analysis I’ve heard. Didn’t go down the anti democratic line, just pointed out the flaws in her “throw it back to the people because parliament is log jammed” line. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I thought he grew into the game pretty well and gave us something different. Don’t know whether he’ll make it or not, that’s for the professionals to decide but now is his time to make a mark . Apart from Ings, he’s not really got particularly good players blocking his path to the side. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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Labour’s position is confusing to say the least, but their negotiating position appears to be this. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

He’ll sit down with the IRA without them ruling out blowing up innocent people, but won’t sit down with May unless she rules out “no deal”. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The Times saying he’s only got till Jan 30th to take control of Brexit. Fixed term parliament act mandates 14 days after loss of confidence vote before GE can be called unless he can form Government. Although DUP might vote down May, they won’t vote for Jezza, so he won’t have the numbers. He’ll need a week to pass legislation before the leave date, and they claim there’s mandated minimum length a campaign can be. All added together, it means Jan 30th equates to polling day of March 21st. Anything after that means he misses the Brexit cut off. I just hope for his sake that Abbott isn’t calculating the cut off day for him. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

May I suggest you attach this to all of your posts? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Some sources reporting this morning that Corbyns tactics will be a series of confidence votes. The reason is two fold 1; it stops him having to back a “people’s vote” rerun, and 2; he’ll eventually win one. Finally he’s worked out that the only way the DUP will vote down the Government is if a deal they’re unhappy with passes. If they’re happy with one then maybe he’ll get enough Tory turncoats to vote their own Government down. Either way, he’s got more chance than he has today. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Problem he’s got is the party policy is to try a GE, and then people’s vote. Had Corbyn not called one, he’d have come under massive pressure from his grassroots. It’s not about winning a confidence vote (because they know they won’t win one) it’s about ticking that box, so they can move onto people’s vote. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Why will he? She stated that she’d give the SNP the option of calling a confidence vote if Jezza didn’t. He’d have looked even more stupid if he refused to. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Kuenssberg reporting that the DUP will support government. They’ve said all along they’ll only bring Government down if her deal passes. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

The DUP could insist on her standing down in return for their support. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

She’s forcing Corbyn to call confidence vote. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Wow, surely she’s toast,230 loss. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

According to Peston, Graham Brady has voted against her. He claims if true it’s complete humiliation territory Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Pony. A whole generation of French, Spanish , and Greek people will be wishing their parents had the balls to unshackle themselves from the chains of EU protectionism like our golden generation did. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

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Correct. Some Brixiters, including Boris wanted 2 referenda, but it’s entirely disingenuous to compare that to the re-run remoaners “people’s” vote. Their suggestion was a vote to leave or remain and then if Leave won, a vote on how we leave. The leader of the Remain campaign specifically ruled this out during the campaign. I can’t see how any can complain if offered a choice of May’s deal or no deal. It’s not a re run, and that’s a crucial difference. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Spurs lose yet another big game. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Behave. They’ve 27 points and it’s only the second week in Jan. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You’re making a fool of yourself. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly. My snap dragon reckons me and my mates treat football as a pub crawl with a match in the middle of it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk