Lord Duckhunter

Correct. One of the biggest myths in football is how signing X makes sense because of the shirts they'll shift. As you say the manufacturer gains the most and once you add in the players image rights, the club make f u c k all from all the extra sales Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not the shiete they sell. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I like 3 at the back in a 3-5-2 because you can get two players up top without being dominated in midfield. We defo have the full backs to play it, & Long with Gabby looks a decent combination imo. The only doubt for me would be Hoedt in the wider centre back role. I haven't seen enough of him, but what I have I'm not convinced he's quick enough if sides get down the sides of us. Historically the middle of the 3 has been the ball player, stepping into midfield, but the last couple of years the wider centre halves have started to be the ones that push on. VvD & Yoshida are certainly quick enough to play the wider roles, so maybe Hoedt could play down the middle. Watching Spurs yesterday it appeared that Vertonghen & Toby were pushing on whilst Sánchez sat in the middle. With OR & Lemina able to get back in quickly VvD & Yoshida could become quite dangerous stepping into midfield. Although not a brilliant 10, Davo's the only one I'd trust to play that role & make it a 5 when they have the ball. The only issue is us becoming 5 at the back, Particularly at home. It really needs to be a 3 because if your full backs are pushed back to play in a normal full back position, we will end up being ultra defensive & end up struggling to get out of our half. Personally I like the system, whether a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-3, but do feel that it needs work and plenty of drilling on the training pitch. Apart from a decent 10, and provided Hoedt is up to it, we have the players to play it. Even Stephens could fit into that ok. Prefer 3-5-2 for us, because a 3-4-3 isn't much different from the diamond and we couldn't score then. Not wishing to go all Merrington on everybody but let's try 2 up front. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

They did on Sunday supplement this morning, blaming the owners. These are the people that sacked Gary Rowlett so clearly they're idiots , was the basic line they took, Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He played nearly every week in a top 8 side last season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Anyone who boos him is a twt Anyone who sings that stupid song is a twt. When he does something good, cheer or clap. Otherwise ignore the bloke. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Can't be; "We're Southampton, we sing our own songs". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly People should count the number of posters contributing to a thread, rather than the number of posts or pages. There's more arguments, & discussions when we lose. Why do people insist on thinking that others are quiet because we won, the implication being they're happier when we lose. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I agree. It gets 2 up front without being out numbered in midfield. Long & Gabbi look a decent pairing to me. Although I'm a fan of the system I'm not a fan of switching during the season and our back 4 isn't really our issue, so why risk it. If we want 2 up top, an old fashioned 4-4-2 can work provided Long works hard defensively ( the role Okazaki played for Leicester) . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'd like to see Klopp's record up against Brenda's Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Let's see him next week against a decent side before wetting our pants. He was good today, but the space they gave him, particularly first half, my mum could have looked class. Utd next week, followed by tough battle at Stoke, we'll know a bit more after those Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Good away performance, tactically spot on. Best performance of the season by far, what a difference a week makes. We had a pattern of play & everybody knew their role. Long fantastic, the 2 centre halves excellent , Forster's best game for a long long time, Tadic similar . Davo & OR did well but Lemina clearly motm. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Really? Sacking a bloke who got us to 8th & to a cup final in his first season isn't knee jerk? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly, no way Koeman would have had us 8th without those 3. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It was a toss up between that and FF & No goalie won Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Koeman' managerial career was pretty average prior to Saints,so maybe, just maybe, the set up & Les Reed contributed to his good seasons. I drank in a Dutch bar in Albufeira the summer we appointed him and the general consensus was that Pelle carried his Feyenoord side. Last season was the easy bit, now we'll see how good a coach he is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There's going to be an attack on a football crowd one day, it's an obvious target. I'd imagine we'd be lower down the risk scale than a big London or Manchester club, but I share your concern. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The fact he couldn't get a game when we had Pelle in the side suggests that, either his crosses aren't as good as they're made out to be, or his weakness in other areas of the game are too great they cancel his crossing out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Gab Marcotti has always maintained that the season he had at Saints was the freak season. His form at Liverpool is exactly the same as it was at Lyon, average. His been consistent in this view since the day Liverpool signed him & other pundits were raving about the signing He was immense for us, poor form since & the signing of Toby & VvD have diluted that a bit. But maybe that really was a freak year for him. Right coach, right partner, right protection from CDM and right sized club for him Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are we still in the league cup then, I thought we lost to Wolves reserves Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The fact the goal was a peno and at the other end shows that it wasn't some sort of over exuberance like the Sterling one at Boscombe, indicates that there were elements of pre planning, showing off, & goading West Ham fans. Probably why they got extended ban. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**** me, there's pony and then there's ashnats pony. He is an intelligent player, with a decent technique, touch & football brain. However, he is slow, weak and just can't impose his skills on the game. We binned Juanmi once this became apparent & im pretty sure we'd have binned JWP had he been a foreign signing. People who say he'll come good are running out of time imo . He's getting further & further away from becoming a regular. He really should be pushing Davo for a start but he's nowhere near. He was adequate last season in a wide right role, whether that was down to Claude's coaching (and before others start, plenty of players have praised his 1-1 coaching in the past), or whether it's down to that being his natural role is unclear. The only way to find out is to give him games and we just can't afford that. He needs to be playing week in week out. He clearly needs a loan, maybe to the championship or even France or Holland. At the moment he's just not good enough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Didn't one bloke get away & jump back into the stands before legging it out the exit. Wonder if he's one of these and got identified later. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Working in the public sector Mrs Duck is naturally a Remoaner, so I won't be discussing EU waste during our break. It'll only lead to an argument. She wants early Dec, but I reckon Jan looks better fixture wise. Apart from Spurs they're not that attractive till Brighton on 31st. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I agree, pre injury last season he was starting to look a decent centre forward. Once Puel stopped fannying around with him and played him straight down the middle he looked ok. Good strength, hold up play & his all round game looked better. Fitting him in with Gabbi is a tough one, maybe could Gabbi play in the 10 role. If he played the same role as Pelle and stayed fit, he'd score as many goals and do as good a job as Pelle did imo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk