Lord Duckhunter

Shocking defending from forum favourite Morgan , looked scared as he turns his back

Monetary union without fiscal Union can never work , that fact will never change .

Once the ref waves play on the Lino had to put the flag down and continue with his game . He can't stand there in defiance of the Ref . The ref acknowledged he'd seen a foul by giving the " play on" action . He only stands there if the ref didn't see his flag .

I was responding to the posters holding great stall with the CBI wanting to remain . They were predicting the same meltdown they are now . They were wrong then and they're wrong now . I think you'll find Ed Balls' position was not against ever joining the Euro or a against it in principle , it was just that our economy wasn't ready yet . There's a lot of rewriting of history on this by Labour . Their policy was "not now" it was not " never" .

Makes me laugh the " morals" supporters have when it comes to cheating . Technically what Costa did was unsporting but wasn't cheating . Diving , deliberate trips, shirt pulling , appealing for a decision when you know you've touched it last, and going down when you're not really that injured ( as VvD did yesterday , I bet he would have stayed on his feet had we been chasing the game) , is cheating . Our players do that pretty much every game , with hardly any critisim.

Tight game but 2 disappointing goals , first on FF was flat footed & my gut feeling was the second one maybe he could have done better . I haven't seen it on TV and being in the kingland corner didn't get a really clear view, but it was pretty central . Quite rare we give goals away from corners these days . Pelle was awful, I don't want to see him Tues.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/120407.stm The CBI, who the Remainians seem to love . "The euro will create a single market of transparent prices, reduced exchange rate risk and a pan-European capital market. Each of these will give a stimulus to competition and productivity growth across Europe." How's the growth going ?

The young girl who gave it to Truss, is at school with my daughter

"Those advocating exit often mention Norway and Switzerland as models the UK should follow outside the EU. " No they don't . Since the referendum been called the only people I've heard mentioning Norway & Switzerland are the Remain people . All I've ever heard from the Leave is that we can do a better deal than them . Anyway so ****ing what if we have to pay tariffs , they won't be that high as the WTO will see to that . If we're not in the single market , so what ? We're British we'll innovate and find new markets . Loads of countries are sucsessful without being in this single market , The EU isn't the world , open your eyes to the wider community of countries . As The trendy vicar on QT said last night . Democracy is more than economics and " are we better off " . If The US offered to pay all our tax receipts so that no UK citizen paid tax , but we would have to become the 51st state , we'd be better off . However ,I doubt anybody would sell our sovereignty for that . Some things aren't for sale , no matter how much better off we will be . In any case , when we leave all bets are off . The EU will have to change , adapt , others might leave as well . The project will fail and fall apart , then maybe the French ,Italians and others will bring in the reforms needed to drag their economies into the 21st century

I moved to Poole about 20 years ago and the Boscombe chumps were pretty friendly , a lot were interested in us and how we did. Around the time of Redknapp and our relegation some of them jumped on this Scummer bandwagon and started to think they were the skates younger brothers . They've now got this big chip on their shoulders about BH Saints which is funny as **** because with one exception , all the ones I've met at work, socially or through local football , all supported somebody else . Liverpool , Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd & Spurs mainly. They're a real pain in the arse , going on about " glory hunter " ( ****ing glory hunter lol ) . I even took my passport into work to shut one twt up . My lad takes a bit of stick at school , whereas my oldest 2 never did when they were his age in the early '00's . Don't get me wrong , some are ok , and I'm meeting a few of them before the game Tues . They don't give me stick and I don't remind them they're Arsenal or Liverpool supporters , but I hope we smash the twts .

This is exactly why the vote is being hurried through in June . The manifesto commitment was by the end of 2017 , which would have given Cameron more time to negotiate a decent settlement . He couldn't do that because he wants us in before the shiete hits the fan.

Great post

You're joking right. They're a bunch of establishment pinkos . People like Parris and Aaronovitch are soaking wet centralists .

You're talking nonsense man . You're excluding Abbott & Corbyn, yet picking and choosing your Leave " cretins" . The past week I've heard credible decent arguments for leaving from Digby-Jones ,Dr David Owen , Gisela Stuart , Frank Field, Giles the trendy vicar & Michael Howard . Farage & Galloway will play their part in bringing in certain groups ( and their wives in Galloway's case) , but if you think people wanting to leave are a bunch of golf club bores or loons ,you're going to get a big shock come the glorious day.

QT in my home town tonight . Car crash tv for remain . Abbott & Truss shocking , let's hope we see more of them in the coming months

Rubbish , there should have been one over Masstrict.

Anybody who wants countries like Poland , Bulgaria & Cyprus to decide who receives our benefits , who comes into our country and what we can charge VAT on , is an extremist imo .

Complete nonsense . As we've seen previously , once the EU extremists get a Remain vote ,that's it , regardless of how the EU changes . You only get another vote if you vote the wrong way .

Had somebody said Bulgarians & Poles would have free movement in a future EEC during the last vote , they'd be accused of talking nonsense . It's uncertain as to whether the Turks will join , funny because the Remainians don't like uncertainty . Dave has said his vote is for a lifetime , who can tell what will happen in the next 30, 40 , 50 years .

And will continue to do so , when we leave . my lad lives in Aus , I lived in The US , Cyprus is full of Russians . People lived and worked abroad before the EU. You don't need to be in a political union to live in a foreign country .

So they'll all buy ferry or Eurostar tickets and jump aboard will they ? If it was as easy as that , surely they would get Ryanair or Easy jet tickets and fly in now . Why aren't there migrant camps at Gatwick or Luton ?

Spot on The fact that to get this great deal Dave had to go begging to Poland , Romania & Germany to let us change our benefit rules , proves your point . The Remainians are clinging to nurse too scared to let go of the comfort blanket . Good job this attitude weren't around earlier in our history , otherwise the pilgrim fathers may have only moved to Wiltshire . Nobody can predict the future , will Turkey join the EU in the next 20 years , that would make a pretty unstable future . The only certainty if we stay in , is the certainty that we won't be able to decide who can come and go , who can claim benefits . There will be certainty that that the EU will continue to make domestic policy , continue to tell us what vat we can and can't charge and on what . That sort of certainty is not that of an independent nation .

"The country would be better off if we stayed in " is interesting . How do you measure " better off " ? Increase in GDP per head of population , increase in average earnings , or just the GDP of the country . Labour fought the last election on the idea that we did have growth , but that growth had made the rich rich richer and the poor poorer . They seem unable to accept the same argument for EU membership . Is it possible that the macro figures show we are better off , but vast numbers of our population are worse off . They are having their wages surpressed by too much supply , the fact that BMW's go up in price is hardly going to keep them awake at night . Prosperity is not a black & white issue , there are plenty of shades of grey and it boils down to gut instinct rather than figures . Tony Benn claimed the EU was a rich mans club and it's funny that lefties believe Tories are the devils children , that they will destroy the NHS ,that they do favours for their city buddies , get rich on the backs of the poor, hate the working man , yet believe every single thing they say on the EU . Dave the man who'll sell the family silver , the NHS and crush the poor is working for the good of everyone with his fantastic " deal". Whilst Geoge Galloway , Frank Field , Bob Crow & Tony Benn , who spent their whole lives sticking up for the poor are wrong. Strange days

You can Trade with the EU without accepting free movement of people . Mexico , South Africa , Turkey all have free trade agreements with the EU , can Mexicans turn up without work permits and work , are millions of Turks entitled to move here ?

It's why Corbyn , until he needed to maintain party unity , wanted us out . Surprised anyone on the left can overlook this. The biggest threat to opening up the NHS to American providers is not the Tories , but their beloved EU