John B

If wages go up usually deficts go down as there is more growth in the economy. I dont think you realise that the Tory's adopted Austerity to shrink the state they did not have to but they did that is why the country is in such a bad state economically and why lots of people voted for brexit

Penalties - Saved: England 3-4 Germany Nathan Redmond for England not much of a surprise unfortunately

One year on, and I still haven't heard a single credible argument from a Brexiteer on the benefits of Brexit.

Serious question about Brexit at what point do we ask the obvious question: "What exactly are we going through all this **** for?"

Yes rain prevented play as Hampshire started their innings Anderson is a great bowler in these conditions I expect it is muggy and the ball is swinging

Just get rid of him and get someone in who wants to play for SFC

Very True Every indicator, every piece of evidence, every person of competence, is telling us loud and clear Brexit is going to be a disaster but will it be stopped. I doubt it

Davis Originally said there would be a serious row if Trade Talks were not allowed in parallel http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/how-brexit-talks-work-row-10421200 Mark Carney and Philip Hammond have delivered their belated Mansion House speeches the economy seems pretty poor because of Brexit . What’s the message, taking Carney first: First, we’re on a knife edge and forget interest rate rises. Second, the economy will be harmed by Brexit and no one can stop that. Third, there is no cake and no one will be eating it. Fourth, without a transitional agreement soon it’s not just cake we’ll be dreaming of. And then Hammond: Fifth, we must stay in the Customs Union even if we say we’ve left it. Sixth, we must have migration, so the question of control is almost irrelevant. Seventh, we must have a very long transition out of the EU. I think he means very long indeed. Eighth, he can do mumbo jumbo on tax, debt, globalisation and trade, none of which makes any economic sense at all. The man if ignorant when it comes to macroeconomics.

I think you will find it is a very big problem As it is Islamic extremism which stokes resentment in the Muslim Community and it enhances ISIS grip on some parts parts of the Muslim Community

I think what you are saying is BREXIT sucks so lets stay in the EU

McDonnell is quite good on Economics so why not especially he is against Austerity which ultimately makes you and me poorer

And me and loads of people in Southampton who voted Labour in large numbers which exceeded the Vote of the Tories in Test and Itchen

Theresa May did warn us about a coalition of chaos. Amazing to see the Conservative party put themselves above the country in priority twice in less than a year. They really are the party for themselves. and according to John Major they are doing it again with the DUP by putting the peace process at risk AS May does not necessarily need to do a deal with any smaller party. May’s Tories are only seven MPs short of a majority. She is therefore in a strong position – much stronger than Labour would be, for example – to run an effective minority government. Minority governments always have to make deals as they go along, but it is practically inconceivable that the DUP would be tempted to join with all the opposition parties to vote the Tories down, especially as that defeat might open the door to a Labour government headed by Jeremy Corbyn, whose views on Ireland the DUP absolutely abhors.

I doubt if the 673 MEPs you mention are not xenaphobic as most Brexiters as they pass laws which make the EU better which ultimately includes you and me. Something like 90% of the laws if not more are agreed by the the UK prior to them being passed to the European Parliament by the way 40 years - of anti EU press propaganda 2 years - since Cameron was elected and offered a referendum 1 year - since the referendum 3 months - since Article 50 And still no brexiters can present a workable way to proceed. Let alone provide actual, real, 'benefits & opportunities' that they keep trumpeting but never name. Perhaps it's just a really, really, dumb idea.

About 8 I think But anyone who isn't a hardline ideologically biased eurosceptic can see the damage Hard Brexit would cause.

Have you heard or read about anybody from the EU saying they will go out of their way to make sure we suffer I havent but if you have let me know In fact I just heard the Irish Foreign minister say the EU will not go out of their way to make sure we suffer It is something dreamed up by the Right Wing Press

What have you heard from Corbyn that you have not liked? So why did you vote Tory ?

The Labour Manifesto was not far left it was just an anti austerity one there are plenty of labour politicans who are against austerity

Come on you Reds

Perhaps we should get in crap players and not improve them then we wont sell them

Well we have Ervine finishes it off

Because they are greedy gits

Why should they make a statement if Puel is still manager

I am with you if Puel was staying surely Reed would have said so my now I just cannot see how Puel can stay now

Yes I agree just met an old Labour MP whilst I was taking the dog for a walk who said something similar but he like me thinks May is pretty useless and particularly nasty and if we dont vote Labour she will become nastier I was this which seems to be how I feel about Mrs May The Conservative plan for this election was for it to be about personalities rather than policies. Theresa May versus Jeremy Corbyn. The question that the Conservatives want people to be thinking about as they cast their vote is which of the two do you think will be better at negotiating a good Brexit deal for Britain. And the polls suggest that many have made up their mind the answer is May. Making a choice based on personalities may not be a completely stupid thing to do. However people with little knowledge can be extremely poor judges of character. I shouldn’t really have to argue the case for this, but simply point to the current POTUS. How anyone could believe that he would improve the healthcare system and sort out the financial sector is beyond me, but then I had read a lot about him so it is difficult for me to imagine what someone less interested in politics might think. But we know in other situations that brief contacts can be very misleading: job interviews are an obvious example, as are interviews of prospective students. We think we can judge character with very little information, and we often fool ourselves in that respect. Or take, as an another example, Theresa May. Some of us may laugh at the endless repetition of ‘strong and stable’, but good propaganda is always based on a half-truth, and the half truth here is that many voters do think she is a cautious operator and a safe pair of hands. It is likely most people get this belief not from a detailed examination of her past actions, but from how she comes across in sound bites and interviews on the TV. The reality seems rather different. Her actions since becoming Prime Minister appear ill-judged and reckless. Take, for example, the pointless attempt to prevent parliament voting on Article 50. A strong and stable Prime Minister would (with a small amount of research) have realised that very few MPs within her party were prepared to be seen to ignore the referendum, and that therefore she would easily get her way. Instead she fought and lost a pointless battle in the courts. It had not been the first time she had wasted public money in this way. Much more serious were the decisions she took immediately after the referendum. There was no need to immediately attempt to define what the referendum really meant, but she impulsively did so in terms of reducing immigration and not being bound by rulings from the European court. It effectively condemned the UK to leaving the Single Market and a Hard Brexit, something that absolutely was not implied by such a close vote. And she chose three Brexiteers to be in charge of the negotiations, which was not a ‘clever political move’ but a disaster in terms of formulating realistic plans for negotiations with the EU. In fact it is rather difficult to think of a single good decision she has taken since becoming PM. Anyone who thinks her previous stint at the Home Office was more of a success should read the article by Jonathan Foreman that the Daily Telegraph pulled after pressure from her campaign. It ends “There’s a vast gulf between being effective in office, and being effective at promoting yourself; it’s not one that Theresa May has yet crossed.” That could be dismissed as exaggeration at a time of internal battles to become Tory leader, but it chimes with accounts by others. The Foreman article describes her as the most disliked member of two cabinets, unable to work easily with colleagues. Secretive, rigid, controlling, even vengeful are other adjectives used. Two characteristics she shows is a lack of collegiality, and a tendency to adopt firm positions when flexibility was required. A clear example of that is the inclusion of students in the target total for net migration, which has done great damage to one of our stronger export industries, as well as causing untold distress to many people. It is difficult to think of any rational reason to obstinately refuse to remedy this mistake, beyond that it might appear to show ‘weakness’ in May herself. The desire to project a false image of strength is unlikely to survive her encounter with the EU. As yet, she has done little to prepare the country for the many retreats she will have to make. Perhaps she thinks she can just lie about this, as she has been caught doing on at least two (here and here) occasions. It is a testament to these character flaws that so many find it difficult to know whether she will do a deal with the EU, or walk away in a faux gesture of defiant strength. Drawing unnecessary lines in the sand, personal aloofness and obstinacy designed to project an image of personal strength, are decidedly not the qualities you want in negotiating with the EU. Just as with Donald Trump, initial appearances can be deceptive. As her many U-turns suggest, she is far from strong and stable. The spin only works because authoritarian tendencies can easily be confused with strength and obstinacy can be confused with stability, and of course a powerful press can assist with the confusion. In reality it is difficult to imagine someone more ill-suited to making the best of the bad job that is Brexit, and on top of that we have grammar schools and an obsession with immigration. David Cameron may find that his reputation as the worst Prime Minister of modern times may not last very long.