John B

If the UK doesn't fix a new trade agreement with the EU, trade would fall back on World Trade Organisation (WTO) rules but that is not the only affect of a No Deal . The UK trades with lots of countries under WTO rules. But the terms are far less favourable than trading within the single market, which is almost frictionless. The sudden imposition of WTO rules is likely to mean tariffs and customs checks, leading to increased financial and bureaucratic costs for British firms buying and selling goods from abroad. Trucks could line up at the border, with customs agents making sure tariffs are imposed. Many existing international trade arrangements, including WTO rules, are mainly concerned with the trade in goods. Services, especially finance, makes up a big chunk of the UK economy. The City of London is the biggest financial hub in Europe and British companies operate extensively on the continent, thanks in part to the EU single market. A no deal scenario could have a serious impact on financial services. As a crucial issue is 'passporting': membership of the EU's single market allows businesses in one state to sell their financial services across the single market, instead of having to obtain licences in each individual country. UK ministers say they want to maintain as "seamless and frictionless a border as possible" with Ireland, a wish shared by their counterparts in Dublin. The UK and Ireland have a common travel area which pre-dates either country's EU membership. Many people live in the north and work in the south and vice versa. Goods and services go back and forth with no customs barriers. "No deal" would mean the UK, including Northern Ireland, leaving the EU's customs union. There could perhaps be some bilateral agreement between the UK and Ireland but this would be difficult to do independent of the EU. A pure no deal scenario would mean a border between EU and a non-EU state, and thus the sudden imposition of tariffs and customs checks. Trade would likely slow down and there would be huge incentives for smuggling . It poses a hypothetical example: a Northern Irish farmer who exports meat and dairy to Ireland and other EU countries, tariff and paperwork free. In the event of an "unplanned Brexit", the farmer "would face tariffs of between 30% and 40% on meat and dairy produce," which would make the farmer's goods uncompetitive. Checks at the border would be a huge bureaucratic exercise which would involve specialised computer systems and a lot of staff. Neither the UK, Ireland nor the EU wants hard borders and customs checks between Northern Ireland and the Republic but it is difficult to see how this could be avoided if no deal was reached. The UK and Irish governments are co-guarantors of the 1998 Good Friday Agreement, which refers to both countries as "partners in the European Union". Brexit, especially with no deal in place, may complicate an already intricate constitutional situation. What about the fate of EU citizens already living in the UK, and of UK citizens resident in other EU countries? According to ONS estimates, around 3.2 million EU citizens live in the UK, and about 900,000 Brits live in other EU countries. Tourists may want to consider the likelihood of a no-deal breakup before booking a European holiday in March 2019. Although it is unlikely that they would require visas for their trips, "some confusion at borders" could be expected. Emergency healthcare insurance for UK tourists in the EU could turn out to be a tricky issue. On the day after a no-deal Brexit, UK travellers to the EU would lose emergency health coverage that comes with the European Health Insurance Cards (EHIC). Reports suggest the EU will hand the UK an exit bill of up to €60bn when it leaves this is to cover the UK's share of outstanding EU budget commitments. The actual amount of the divorce bill will be subject to negotiations, but it could well be a particularly tricky part of the Brexit talks but in my opinion is not insurmountable. Here, a no-deal Brexit might be good news for the UK government as in the absence of an agreement, there would be no legal obligation for the UK to settle the Brexit bill. Perhaps it would be a good idea to have a deal of somekind

The two things that really worry brexit supporters are truth and reality

Unfortunately uninformed and bigotted people like you need to realise that a no deal is worse than a bad deal and any deal is a worse deal than we currently have

So are you suggesting we stick with Stephens and Yoshi until VVD returns

I think they are stating the bleedin obvious but the Govt has no sense of reality what do you think ?

As the Guardian say Before the referendum it would have been reasonable to say that the British already had their cake and were eating it, through membership of the single market combined with our various opt outs and rebates. No deal that might be reached now will ever be as good. That’s*obvious to outsiders, and axiomatic to*the EU negotiating team. The only question is*how long it will take for the Conservatives to accept this truth.

There does not seem to be much uncertainty to me SFC have said VVD is not for sale and there have been no bids

What evidence is there that he is not staying

Yes you are right it is never over until the fat lady sings which is a colloquialism which is often used as a proverb. It means that one should not presume to know the outcome of an event which is still in progress. More specifically, the phrase is used when a situation is (or appears to be) nearing its conclusion. It cautions against assuming that the current state of an event is irreversible and clearly determines how or when the event will end. The phrase is most commonly used in association with organized competitions, particularly sports.

Why should we stick to our guns surely we should be planning the way forward without VVD which may entail keeping VVD but on the other hand it may not Lets wait and see what SFC decide to do and what input the new owner gives

Do you not realise that Ward-Prowse is one of the best crossers of the ball in the PL

Well VVD thinks there is one

Yes I agree but probably not in Liverpool

What would your comments have been if Redmond and Bertrand had done better with their chances and both scored

Thanks for that I would offer to subsidise your research but at only £2.75 I will not bother. I was walking the Thames Path with some friends on Thursday and I pint of Brakspears cost me £4.50 but it was a really good pint

As a matter of interest how much is a pint in Huddersfield - Miss Whistle

I don't know why you don't **** off and support another club which has more financial clout I don't believe you go to many games if any so you are not providing much revenue for the club to buy and pay better players. I am a realist and accept SFC are a pretty good second tier PL club where the players are not performing well at the moment but hope they will improve in the next few weeks. I have been supporting the team since the late 1950's and in general the team has been performing in general as well as it has in the last 60 years except for a period 40 years ago or so when we managed to have some seriously good players playing for the club. That Period commencing with the FA cup win was a bit of a blip really which could not be sustained especially with the advent of the PL where the big clubs buy the best players I quite enjoy following and watching the Saints but you don't seem to so why do you do it as you are always whining and whingeing ?

Does it really matter how bad we were last year What matters surely is that for the last few months we have not been very good how many goals have we scored in open play at home when opponents are usually happy to defend and hope for the best in attack

I agree but when were we last any good I feel we have been poor since the League Cup Final The manager usually gets the blame but the players most of whom are earning over a £million a year surely must take the responsibility we are pretty impotent when it comes to scoring goals

So VVD is on his way?

Don't get me wrong I think he is a great signing but it just seems too good to be true or maybe I have been brain washed by some of the knobs on here that Les Reed and his team are pretty crap and will never bring in any decent players. I get the impression he is pretty ambitious and wants to prove himself before moving on but that is only based on what he has said in the media in short interviews

Just cannot understand if he is the Dogs Bollix why he cant get into the Lazio team and nobody else wants him £15m seems cheap if he is as good as people say. It really would be great if he does develop into a top class CB but at the moment it seems too good to be true as it seems to be a really excellent signing So who is going to make way for him Yoshi or Stephens or will VVD be back after the International break I doubt he will be a starter against Huddersfield

I imagine Sam would like to go and play at Birmingham rather than stay and hope that Austin Long and Gabbi get injured

Since he has just signed a five year contract I think the club are happy with him. Just another whingeing thread moaning about our players

But we ****ing won so whats the problem Next week you will be whingeing about something else footballers like people are not perfect so just accept sometimes we will win sometimes we will lose. We have a decent squad so lets get behind and see how the season pans out . Per