John B

Have you just come on here to be nasty and not particularly nice I thought this was a forum to discuss Saints What actually is wrong with my logic

Just shows we are not a top club but just a staging post for footballers to earn obscene amounts of money when so many people are not and some are on the streets

This season we have won 9 lost 7 drawn 7 which I think is good with a new manager a few injuries and lots of travel I think some fans should be more realistic we are mid table side with players who will sometimes make a mistake and sometimes the team will play badly

I did remember about the ZDS and JPT that is why I mentioned proper cups which probably mean European qualification if you win

To some extent I agree with you but we are surely going to get to another proper cup final at Wembley again it is nearly forty years since we were last there. Liverpool are a great club one of the most consistent and successful ones over the last 50 years so it is a huge task to beat them over two legs

I did not think we would beat Leeds in 1979 but we did and went to Wembley. After Terry Curran scored early the semi final at the Dell was the longest match I have been to as we held on to the 1 0 lead

I saw his Southampton debut in 1966 scored a goal at the Archers Road end if I remember to help us on the road to Div1 A very important goal as we drew 2 2

You seem to be completely out of touch with reality as you did not understand what I wrote. I spent lots of time canvassing prior to 2015 talking to thousands of electors but not before the Referendum because I left the Labour Party in July 2015 but I am not out of touch in any way. Before 2015 there was of course concerns regarding immigration many of them based on misconceptions but there is no real solution because we need immigration as we have an ageing population and there is not much evidence that foreign workers take British jobs and they do pay their way and do jobs which many UK people do not want to do. Perhaps if your read this you might be surprised https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/20/reality-check-are-eu-migrants-really-taking-british-jobs The Tories could also have alleviated the problem if they had built more homes had not cancelled Labour's emergency local fund in area with large immigration and had made certain that incoming EU citizens were not paid less that UK born citizens if there was a problem. They also could have done more to invest and to train young people. But in times of austerity it is the immigrant who gets the blame

I think this team selection is very important and one of the most important Puel has had to make all season. I personally would go for bust and put out a very strong team Forster Soares Fonte Yoshida McQueen Romeu Classie Davis Tadic Long Redmond and hope for the best against Palace I think it is next weekend

Seems to be working to me still in League Cup a win away from the knockout stage of the Europa League and in 10th place in PL with four games against lower placed teams coming up. I thinking he has done pretty well considering injuries and the lack of form of J Rod

It was the the right wing press and UKIP which convinced the working class that the EU and immigration was responsible for falling living standards and losing their jobs. When in fact it was the Tory's choice to shrink the state with Austerity invest less in housing and training so that trained immigrants from the EU were blamed when they came to the UK. The Tories could also have alleviated the problem if they had built more homes had not cancelled Labour's emergency local fund in area with large immigration and had made certain that incoming EU citizens were not paid less that UK born citizens

I doubt that would have been the case but blaming Brexit for Tory Economic mismanagement is a change from blaming Labour they were very unlikely to have met this years targets even if Brexit had not occurred Brexit is just part of the reason that the UK Economy is in a bad state the main cause however as DuckHunter has said recently is down to Cameron Osborne and the Tories Especially as there is little evidence that Business is investing http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-economy-idUKKCN1290ZR Just because more people voted for leaving the EU on one particular day does that mean that Brexit was the right decision. with many unable or could not vote. I heard of somebody that voted out by post had died before the 23 June and probably there were some that voted Remain did not make it either. Leave said things that would happen if we left the EU which were plainly wrong and untruthful Such as Extra £350m each week for the NHS Turkey was going to join the EU and the country was going to be flooded by Turks A new points based immigration system was going to be implemented to reduce immigration even though we need it to grow the economy as we have an aging population. We could still have tariff free dealings with a market of 550billion people Inward investment would continue and we could get fantastic trade deals with the rest of the world. The incompetent Cameron and Osborne scared people with there economic rhetoric so much so that people like Batman did not realise that there would be economic consequences for leaving the EU as sterling would fall inflation would rise and growth and productivity would fall which is very likely to happen. We joined the EU when I was a young man because we were economically unsuccessful and in the forty years or so since we have grown to be a very successful economy with average growth about 2% every year with both Tory and Labour Governments It has been the policy of all Political Parties during the last forty years that our economic future was best served by being in the EU . So I find it strange that we are now out with no plan on how the EU is going to be replaced but many are estatic about the prospect as they hope that it will be alright on the night. But there is a very strong chance that millions of us will be poorer live for a shorter life and will be very unhappy

'Workers in Britain face the biggest squeeze on their pay for 70 years as a Brexit blow to the economy knocks wage growth and stokes inflation, according to an analysis of the UK’s government’s latest tax and spending plans.' And that's probably the best we can expect. The worst is hyperinflation, mass unemployment, and a reliance on a bankrupt state to fund the growing demands on the welfare state and NHS, which will both collapse. All in the name of 'taking back control'. I have seen no details or value estimates of the 'huge trade opportunities' that await Brexit Britain. Unless posters can give tangible details instead of waffle and hype they should shut up.

So are we in in or out of the single market. Are we in or out of the customs union If we have to trade with WTO rules what will be the levels of tariffs these things are leading to uncertainty I cannot see many companies wanting to invest in the UK if they dont know what the rules are .

You are as usual wrong I agree George Osborne's has mismanaged the economy but Brexit has compounded the situation so £220bn has been added to the Debt. £78bn of that is due to the expected post-referendum slowdown in the economy, £16bn is from government spending and tax decisions, and most of the rest is the result of measures taken by the Bank of England in August to avert recession (its initiatives to help banks lend and to purchase bonds). So it's reasonable to suggest that £220bn increase in the national debt is the financial cost of Brexit and in all likelihood this amount will increase. I agree Osborne has ruined the economy but Brexit has made it even worse I know you will not admit it but if you think you are right perhaps you tell me in figures why Brexit has not caused a major problem with the economy Here are the details of how much Britain now has to borrow. 2016-2017: £68.2bn deficit, up from £55.5bn in the Budget in March 2017-2018: £59bn, up from £38.8bn 2018-2019: £46.5bn up from £21.4bn 2019-2020: £21.9bn compared with a surplus of £10.4bn 2020-2021: £20.7bn compared with a surplus of £11bn

Hammond’s statement was a chance to make a first big assessment of the impact of Brexit on the UK economy. The verdict is, without question, bleak. Growth is down, borrowing has to rise, and the dream of a surplus has been deferred to “as soon as practicable”, ie never

I think I will take notice of people with a little more economics knowledge than some so called pompous bloke on a football forum who seems to think that whatever he believes is right especially as Brexit vote wiped £1.2tn off UK household wealth in 2016

There has been almost zero British wage growth since global financial crisis which is shown in the graph in the post above. Figures from recruitment giant Korn Ferry underlines weakness of UK average pay since fall of Lehman Brothers http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/zero-british-wage-growth-since-global-financial-crisis-new-data-shows-a7226961.html mostly because of Tory Policies which advantage the wealthy In fact the UK joins Greece at bottom of wage growth league https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/jul/27/uk-joins-greece-at-bottom-of-wage-growth-league-tuc-oecd How people think the Tories are economically competent beats me. Taking us into BREXIT makes it even worse

Very true but BREXIT is the the most econimically stupid thing has happened to the UK as inflation grows growth and investment reduce and we all get poorer Things only appear OK at the moment because consumer debt is increasing as real wages are significantly less than in 2008

I agree with your sentiments but really that is our only choice we just dont have the resources to compete with the big City teams we were lucky last year as Liverpool and Chelsea were so poor but it is not the case this season

According to the Guardian: The government’s independent economic watchdog will tear up its previous forecasts for the UK’s growth prospects as it gives its first official verdict on the outlook for post-Brexit Britain this week. The Office for Budget Responsibility is expected to paint a gloomy picture of lower growth, higher inflation and a larger-than-expected deficit as the UK negotiates its way out of the EU. Now the OBR has a well founded reputation for getting its forecasts wrong: they are always too optimistic. In this case that is no comfort: expect things to be worse than they say. And what this shows is how resoundingly fickle people are. They bought the austerity narrative until they bought the EU / migration narrative. And then they voted to make themselves worse off. All that can be concluded is that politics is no longer just about the economy. Or that people can be conned, and are.

Apparently he is one of the best in Europe he reffed the 2016 UEFA Champions League Final and the UEFA Euro 2016 Final so he must be pretty good I would have thought

I think we have done OK especially as we have been involved in Europe and the League Cup and had a few injuries to attacking players

I agree but it is not easy getting a reliable goal scorer. We usually lose these type of games lets hope our luck continues 0 0 would be a decent result

There are no services in the customs union only stuff What do you mean no services in single market Services maybe involved if you sell something