Lighthouse

Virgil, Mané, Le Tiss, Beattie

If we signed a striker with 17 goals in 3 years playing in the championship, we’d all be fuming. He’s shown nothing to suggest he is a Premier League player at all. Plenty of excuse from some but a whole succession of coaching and management teams have decided he’s not even worth a place in the matchday squad. We’ve done the whole ‘the kids can’t be any worse’ argument before and got relegated from the Championship in 08/09.

They can be as p*ssed off as they like, neither have looked like PL players for any notable period in their careers. Gallagher was something like the 35th top scorer in the Championship, with his goals all coming in a 7 game purple patch.

I’d go with a 4-3-3 personally; Armstrong - Hojbjerg - Lemina Redmond - Ings - Gabbi Give SA and ML license to push forward when able and win the midfield battles when not in possession. Not saying it will be amazing but we can’t be much worse than the sludge of the last 2.5 years.

Is a helicopter crash any more likely than a bus driver having some sort of seizure or mental episode? The Nice terror attack showed just how dangerous that could be, much worse than a helicopter coming down, even in a busy area.

Not really, just my $0.02

We will be in a much worse financial position financially if we go down with the players we have on the wage bill. A team full of youth team players was crap in ‘08 and it’d be crap if it happened again.

I largely agree with this, especially the bit about Scousers. Lots of them seem to have some weird need to shoehorn Liverpool’s into this. I was upset when I heard Marcus had died, in a ‘put a downer on my evening’ kind of way but too distraught to come to work?

There’s a line somewhere between freedom of religion and offending people. A rather blurry line but Glenn was definitely the wrong side of it. Imagine being a young kid who dreams of playing for England but knowing you never will because you’re in a wheelchair. That must be horrible but then to top it off, the England manager says you are being punished for being a terrible person in a past life. Glenn has every right to his beliefs but airing such controversial beliefs publicly was naive.

Fairly obviously this game won’t go ahead and this thread isn’t especially pleasant either.

I wouldn’t say it’s much different to the helicopters which land at Canary Wharf everyday, or driving a vehicle around the stadium on a crowded match day really. Perhaps there should be a rule - no movements between an hour before kick off and half an hour after landing.

I agree, it’s an ancient concept. It has no place in modern society and saying others have done or said worse is no excuse for anything. I wish him well personally and hope he makes a full recovery but if he doesn’t then by his own beliefs that’s down to the will of God.

Watching MOTD and I think our saving grace could be that Huddersfield, Fulham, Newcastle and Cardiff look consistently dreadful this season. Someone could stay up with 30 points at this rate.

Hundreds of people who were at the game probably have phones with flat batteries, on silent, left it in the car, didn’t hear it in the pub, no signal etc. Hopefully those reports are wide of the mark if nothing else.

People on Twitter know sod all, they just say dramatic stuff for likes and retweets. SSN reporting that the vice-chairman was NOT on board.

Long does not create problems. His running allows defenders a bit less time on the ball than they would like, which leads to us winning a few more throw ins. When you are defending a striker based on the number of throw ins he wins you are scraping the varnish off the bottom of the barrel. Long and Austin are both awful for different reasons. That’s all there is to it.

I disagree, drains are actually an important part of urban infrastructure. I’m struggling to think of bigger helmets in British football than Nile Ranger. I guess Joey Barton and Marlon King would run him close.

Long, Mayuka and N’Guessan gave us pace and running. Sims struggles to get into a team fighting relegation from the Championship. He’s not the answer.

I agree. If we’re going with 2 strikers, it’s got to be Ings and Gabbi by default really. Austin and Long are utterly, hoplelessly awful.

All gone down hill since they released ‘Too Shy’.

The thing is I’m not entirely sure what his point is; that conservative Christians object to people being homosexual? It’s hardly news and not going to change any time soon. As Turkish said, there are plenty of other bakers who would have had no objection to making the cake and as such the court case seems like a complete waste of time. What would they have achieved had they won? Forcing somebody to make a cake which contradicts their beliefs. It’s not going to lead to acceptance, more likely resentment.

If we signed Glenn Murray, we’d be pinging long balls over the top for him to run on to. Back to the OP, Trotman - I actually thought he was alright. Darren Powell was one of the most hopelessly I gifted footballers I’ve ever seen in a saints shirt. He had a 50p head, Toblerone feet and ran like he was carrying a sack of cement. On the rare occasions he wasn’t injured (or suspended for violent conduct in a pre-season friendly) you wished he was.

I’d make it so that there was a red and white striped sponge under the icing.

At what point then would you draw the line? If you worked for company printing custom designed flags and somebody asked you to produce a dosen Nazi or ISIS flags for their political march, should you have the right to refuse? Saying you are simply providing a service for a cost doesn’t absolve you of any moral involvement. It would be like our government openly selling weapons to a genocidal dictator in a third world country and saying, "well we don’t nescessarily agree with his ethnic cleansing policy, selling the weapons was purely a business transaction." All we can ask of society is to be tolerant. My point is that being obliged to be involved in something which you morally disagree with is a step beyond tolerance.

The word ‘celebration’ is overdoing it but this is the fairest possible outcome. As far as I can tell these bakers are tolerant of homosexuals and haven’t expressed any aggression, bad will or rudeness towards them. However, what they were asked to do is, to a small extent, promote homosexuality. That’s where people should be allowed to draw the line and IMO why the courts are correct. Going into all the reasons of why various religions are morally wrong is a never ending argument and I don’t disagree with what you have said.