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And yet... it's going to be west ham.

That ties in with 67% of St Mary's leaving before the lap of appreciation. If he doesn't improve rapidly next year and Les doesn't sack him then frankly both need to go. And if Les keeps him on this summer, and doesn't back him in the transfer market again, then Les needs to go anyway. Imagine a summer like the last transfer window... but where VVD, Cedric, Bertrand, Forster and Tadic all go with worse replacements coming in, the same crap football and a relegation scrap to look forward to. That is certainly one potential future....

No he didn't. Stop being a muppet Glasgow.

He needs to go in the next 30min!! That or Les Reed out!

A lot of negatives from the players recently. Selected a god awful song for prematch the the fanbase widely hates. Chose a kit for the cup final that the fans couldn't buy or wear. Purported player unrest and players actively destabilising the club by trying to get the manager or themselves out. Not managing to score in 5 games at home Think its time for a complete squad overhaul tbh. Time we got some players with a brain into the club.

Pants analogy IMO. If saints had been more attacking we'd have been a lot closer to Everton. The number of games we've drawn or lost this game becuase puel didn't know how to win them is a joke. The last 3 at home (Stoke, Hull, United) are prime examples. If we'd attacked more and been more "exciting" we'd have had a shed load more points. At the end of the day, if we'd done much worse than 46 we'd be calling it a relegation scrap. As fans, I think we need to stop trying to justify what a cack season we've had. The only saving grace is that we got to (and lost) a cup final that we should really have won anyway. We couldn't even beat HBS and Prague when it mattered. Seriously, there is no justification for how crap we've been this year. Go through the fixture list and just add up all the games that were there for the taking and we lost/drew.

What better 22 year old (or younger) players in the premier league would you put above JWP. I am struggling to get past players like Rashford (debateable), Pickford (debateable), Alli, Sterling? They usually play for top top clubs... What exactly do you expect from JWP given his age? To be one of the top players in the prem and therefore not playing for Saints? Or is the stick with which we beat him that he isn't a top class player and therefore isn't good enough for us?

Still sitting pretty for tommorrow in the sweepstake. 11:00-12:00 may have been a bit early though. Suspect the chap with 2pm is going to get it :/

Please don't feed the trolls. They've never had it so good.

Makes you think right. The security at SMS is laxidasical compared to somewhere like Manchester Arena. And that goes for 95% of football grounds in the country. Its going to happen one day unless that changes.

Will happen Thursday after the EL final. I'll take 11-12am.

People should ignore squad value IMO, especially since we have net received money to make this squad, not net spend. Our wages put us mid table, and frankly that is where we are. The wheels have properly come off of Les' "Southampton Way" this season. Boring football, no plan B, poor transfer dealings and a serious dent in brand recognition and supporter happiness. People can scream "8th place and a final" all they want... The truth is we've got 46points, and game after game we have been unable put matches to bed when the other team have practically rolled over on their back asking us to tickle them senseless. (And I include the cup final in that list of games, just like Hull at home, Stoke at home, United at home etc etc etc etc - I actually lose count). Puel has to go, he's lost the dressing room, and doesn't know how to score a goal with this team, let alone win a match atm.

We owe Cortese and Markus more than anyone else in recent history, and yet fans will still attack NC on here with no remorse, and no matter how much crap they spout doing it. He had no hand in any good decisions and was responsible for every bad one according to some on here. You couldn't make it up. I suspect in 10years time led Reed will have been responsible for ML buying the club in the first place, and NC will have been written into the history books as being responsible for not signing back up for VVD. HTH.

No. Cortese sacked Pardew, Cortese hire Adkins, Cortese hired Poch. Les got rid of the two best managers we've had in two decades. In fact by that Metric I would say Puel's job is safe. The rewriting of history on this board, and complete removal of credit with regards to NC is embarrassing. Just except that he was pivotal in where we are now. And in the 3 years since he left the club, we're in exactly the same spot in the league (although slightly worse, or slightly better depending on what metrics you use). The fact remains, why on earth people want to air brush him from history is beyond me.

Every season ticket holder I know, bar 1, did not attend that game.

And still, no home league wins this year, no goal at home for nearly 7 hours, and our worst league performance for 4 years. Puel is a dead man walking. But says a lot about the club that even after a bad season, we are still in a position to achieve 4 consecutive top ten finishes. Imagine if we had a manager who knew how to attack, break down teams, and score goals!!

The fact that the game was moved to a wednesday night has an effect, but I know plenty of season ticket holders who are so turned off my the style of play that they just can't be arsed to make that extra bit of effort this year. Getting a 0-0 draw against that United team was the bare minimum. Anyone who thinks we will beat stoke is delusional atm, no goal at home in over 6 hours of play, no home wins in the league all season. He is a dead man walking in my honest opinion. I truly think that any half decent manager would have matched Puel this year. The cup final was the only thing that stood out, and we lost it.... when once again we should have won. I'll give him time, but not much more. And no goals and no wins from united and stoke at home will see him gone i think.

Not being picky or at all demanding then are you... Think about what you just wrote.

It means that they've only had bench appearances all season in deference to the other 2.... Pretty much as simple as that.... An in a system that is built specifically for finishers.

Silva is not the answer.

Boufal needs glasses? that explains the lack of passing...

I hear what you're saying, but technically Corbyn is Labour at the moment.

I'm A3 B2

So without reading through pages of peoples different politcal idealogies... What is the consensus on here? Question A - what do you think will happen? A1. Corbyn Win? A2. Similar to now? A3. Tory Win? Question B - Who do you want to win? B1. Corbyn B2. Tories B3. Total Apathy

CS did to CR, what LR did to NC.