
Sergei Gotsmanov
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People involved with livestock do not see animals in the same way as you might because you have become detached from the reality of slaughter. I think you devalue the cause of liberating people from apartheid, the advances of gay rights, slavery etc by putting a ban on fox hunting on the same level.
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I think there is a big gap between animals and humans. If you eat meat then so do you.
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I am not trying to persuade you that killing for fun as you crudely put it is acceptable. I just find it strange that you are so interested in what other people do when in reality it has no impact what so ever in your life. This is a common theme of the left, this instinct to interfere and to meddle.
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I am sure you are a good bloke Fuelgirola Saint but I just cannot understand why you and others have to judge everybody and what they do? If you do not like something then do not do it but why are you so 'vehemently opposed' to something that you really have no understanding of. Read Hemingway and at least educate yourself before jumping to such strong views.
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As I expected. As with others on the left you are motivated by chippyness and hatred. I bet they love you in Spain when you go about telling them their bull fighting is so wrong. Actually I suspect you rarely leave the confines of your little world to sample the culture that surrounds you. Broaden your mind mate and be free.
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A fox is not tortured to death. Another person who falls into the trap of not bothering to see a fox hunt and meet the people involved before making passionate statements about something they are not qualified to talk about.
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Well they were split when they voted in 2005.
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He would be very unwise too. Actually he would probably get it through as a lot of the liberals are against banning things that is why they are called liberals.
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The tedious self righteousness of the left. Always preaching tolerance unless they do not agree. As I say freedom is a very precious thing.
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I think you are right, it will be a healthy check on less savoury Tory ideas. Will ultimately collapse when they have to debate the far more unsavoury offerings from Europe.
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So you have not been on a fox hunt. What then gives you the right to have such strong opinions or is it prejudice? It is about a respect for people and their culture. I highly reccomend you read Siegfried Sasson's diary of a fox hunter. Anyway we are straying from the point of civil liberties and how Labour have no regard for our basic liberties.
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I expect to develop these strong views you have been on a fox hunt. Typical attitude of people who want to ban the burka becasue they do not understand somebodies culture.
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You must live in a different world John. Have you not seen the CCTV watching your every move. The fact that the government now keeps enormous amounts of data on you. The end of the jury. The right to hunt foxes, the right to smoke in somebody business. The right to freedom of speech, the rright to emploty who you like etc etc etc
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I am not aquainted with the full details of the dispute but my gut reaction was indeed why shoot yourself in the foot but if you bring it down to a personal level then I feel for FF. I also particularly disapprove of the way in which their PR machine has dealt with individuals in a ruthless way.
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I am not a Tory boy I am a free market libertarian who sometimes puts his cross next to the Conservative box. Well most of the time. Probably better off arguing the boy bit now I come to think of it.
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Remember that a guy has lost his living here. Whatever the ins and out they fought pretty dirty and left FF on the scrap heap. I can only wish him well in finding new work.
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No offence BTF but it will be refreshing to get away from the nanny state mentality of the left! Live your life! be free, smoke, drink, eat what you like its your choice......
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He speaks sense in the Sunday Times as well
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Do not forget that he told everyone he was going to do it so the price went down!
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Whats been done by Labour in 13 yrs
Sergei Gotsmanov replied to Fuengirola Saint's topic in The Lounge
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Well I am not in a position to know but the fact you live up North points to some form of under achievement!
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Classic chippy attitude that holds so many people back in life.
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Duncan you are one of us and what ever your view on this they fought a dirty game. Good luck with everything from me - hope you win through!
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easy way of getting publicity