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I’m not sure holding a PM to account for the effects of their party’s underfunding of the NHS is hardly a stupid game Duckie.

If we did it would be the first time in history that both teams lost 2-1 to a 96th minute goal.

Would they be the people called “lefties,” “pinkos,” “snowflakes” etc. by some on here perchance?

The BBC managed not to show the footage of Johnson refusing to look at the picture of the boy on the reporters phone (which was quite shocking). It did however show Johnson taking the reporters phone out of his pocket and then look at it which was just plain weird. Why take his phone and put it in his pocket?

They might cut direct taxes but what about indirect taxes? VAT at 20% cannot be considered low.

The Tory manifesto seems to consist of a) Get Brexit done b) Not be Labour and c) Spend A Few Quid On Public Services To Make It Look Like They Care.

Any sane person would get angry about this. I guess you think it is ok?

Apparently because Jeremy Corbyn is worse. Go figure.

Will give them a try then. No not heard the orchestral version of Tommy either, something else to catch up with!

It might not be a “desolate wasteland” but for a great many people life is very tough (considering we have the 5th biggest economy). As an ex serviceman yourself, doesn’t it bother you to see so many veterans living on the streets?

No of course it isn’t an irrelevance. But Johnson is hardly Mr Popular either is he?I don’t think anyone ever expects parties to deliver on manifesto promises, but as a statement of intent surely the disadvantaged (i.e. most of us) will be better off with a government that addresses the catastrophic underfunding of this country than one who sees trying to bring things back to the way they were 9 years ago as some kind of huge bonus to us all. The Americans ended up with Trump in part because he wasn’t Hilary Clinton and that hasn’t worked well for them had it? I guess we will find out what this country is made of on Friday morning.

But that is what we will get under Johnson, pretty much more of the same. Whether people like Corbyn or not, the Labour policies have to be more palatable than the Tory policies surely? If it is a hung Parliament, a coalition between Labour and the LibDems would seem to offer a better platform to overturn the last decade of austerity. Corbyn cannot be that bad that anyone would want 5 years of Johnson unless they have enjoyed the last 9 years so much they want more of the same.

To be fair, Long gets plenty of stick. The basic problem is that you can miss plenty of chances but still get a point. As soon as you concede a goal you have to score at least 1 to get anything out of a game. We do score goals but we don’t keep clean sheets.

So people will vote for more child poverty, more food banks, worse working conditions, more austerity, the end of the NHS as we know it, a very own Donald Trump like leader. Yay.

Finally we agree on something Duckie. This country is fat too right wing. Fortunately the young people seem to have a more socially responsible attitude so the future looks brighter. I just hope I live long enough to see things improve.

This always get trotted out yet we always have plenty of people wanting to come here.

Voting advice from The Observer. Anyone but Johnson.

Still note decided. Waiting to see where a tactical vote will have the best chance of unseating our Tory.

On what planet is it not a personal slur to call someone who rescued a bunch of children a “pedo guy?” I can only imagine that the members of the jury will be driving around in shiny new Tesla’s sometime soon.

I’m not sure that ideals to provide a society that is fair for everybody is misguided and please don’t tell me that he will do any worse than the last shower have done for the last decade. We desperately need a change of direction and a change of focus. We will not get that from a Johnson led government. It is time for our country to show that we are not a mini me American and when given a choice we will reject small minded selfishness over a vision that we really are in it all together. One nation doesn’t mean what Johnson and Cummings would have you believe. Theirs are the politics of those who are ok just looking after themselves. Vote for Johnson and in 5 years time we will still be talking about the same issues that we have surrounding poverty. Get him and his party out and we have a chance to do something about it. At last.

But we are told by the people who vote for Johnson that it is about the policies and not the person. In which case why vote for the party who have caused record levels of child poverty, food banks, record homelessness, the systematic failure of public services, the underfunding of the NHS etc. etc? If people feel that strongly about Corbyn and his party’s politics there are other parties to vote for apart from the failed Tory party.

Exactly. It’s the usual deflection. It doesn’t make the Tories less odious and unpalatable just because they still have plenty of support. Trump could get re-elected, doesn’t make him any less dreadful. It just speaks volumes about the people who them in despite their awfulness. The current governing party should be able to say vote for us because of our fantastic record over the last 9 years. It speaks volumes that the current bloke is trying to distance himself from their abysmal record. Brexit is clearly playing a big part in this election which is why the broken record of “Get Brexit done” is driving sane people crazy. Still, there are signs of hope. Johnson has had to call off visits to several towns due to protests. With luck both him and the equally odious Rees-Mogg will lose their seats. Johnson doesn’t even have the bottle to be interviewed by Andrew Neil. How is he supposed to negotiate a decent trade deal with Trump?

Just watched the last episode of Giri/Haji. Excellent.

Sally-Ann Hart with a very slim majority is having a mare after only just been ripped apart for saying mentally impaired people should earn less and now this. The Tories could well be waving goodbye to Hastings & Rye.

A good read and sums things up pretty well. Ultimately very depressing though.