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254 asylum seekers attempted to cross the English Channel in small boats/dinghies yesterday. Seems like Priti Patel’s cunning plan to deter them hasn’t got off to the most auspicious start.

There is a new narrative that paints Chamberlain in a different light. Not seen the film yet but apparently it is saying that Chamberlain’s appeasement policy helped in buying time to arm the country as we weren’t ready militarily or mentally for a war with Hitler. In the year or so before war finally broke out the RAF, for example, was able to build enough planes to mount a reasonable defence against the Luftwaffe. There was a greater fear about Communism and Hitler was seen as being a force against that. There was no appetite for war after WW1, especially to protect a far off land like Czechslovakia ( echos of Ukraine) and the western alliance, at that point, was weak. So while trying to prevent a major war in Europe, he also paved the ground for fighting one if certain historical perspectives are to be believed. Munich - The Edge of War is the film. Let’s just hope that history doesn’t repeat itself, but there are many parallels between Hitler’s aims for Germany and Putin’s for Russia, not to mention the Western stance so far in allowing Putin to takes what he wants by military force.

I’m dopey? You are one of the fools who voted this lot in and continue to support them despite everything. And yes you weed crazed person, I do understand the different between local elections and the General Election. I think you have lost it Duckie, you are beginning to make even Turkish sound like an intellectual giant. Lay off the puff mate.

I see the Mail and Express are doing their level best again today to try and deflect from the awful mess the Tories are making from running the country. The Express going as far as saying that we are not bothered by Partygate any more (described by Rees-Mogg as “fluff”) as if we can’t focus on more than one major issue at a time. Well, everyone I listen to radio phone in shows or watch current affairs shows like QT, Partgate clearly hasn’t gone away nor people’s anger and the public clearly want action taken. I just hope that people turn out to the polls next week and give this bunch the hiding they deserve, not that anything will change. Johnson will say he has listened to the public and will make changes, but nothing will change. He will carry on lying and being useless whilst everything turns to shit around him. I don’t know what is worse, the fact that he and his crap cabinet are still here or that some people still insist on supporting them in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are morally bankrupt and useless at their jobs. If they get themselves voted back in at the next General Election there is truly no hope for this country.

So Neil Parish “may” have opened and looked at porn “by mistake” in the Commons but he won’t know if it was a mistake until the inquiry tells him if it was or wasn’t. The bar just keeps getting lower. The days when MPs did the honourable thing and resigned are long gone. Now they stick it out as long as they can in the hope that it will all blow over or that something will happen to save their sorry arses. As has been said many times, a fish rots from the head down and they take their example from the PM. The Tories are trying to spread the muck wider in the hope that poor behaviour will be seen as a cross party issue. Clearly it isn’t just the preserve of the Tory Party but it is hard to think of a PM, cabinet and party who have racked up so many incidents of questionable behaviour and decision making than this one. Johnson always wanted to go down in history as another Churchill. Sadly for him and the country he will be remembered, but for all the wrong reasons.

Depends whether you go with the Daily Mail or the Daily Mirror Batman. Clearly in your case the Mail. Interesting that the Tory MP kicking off about Starmer did exactly the same thing a week before. Who is looking like a bellend? https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mp-who-wants-police-26826391.amp

Which was my point.

Whilst the world is going to hell in a handcart The Sun decide to give their front page tomorrow over to the massive news that James Corden is giving up his US tv show to spend more time in the UK 🙄

Close run thing between KWP and JWP for me but over the whole season I think KWP has been the more consistently good player, on either flank too.

Nothing to do with being in a camp. It was funny as are the many cock ups in mens football. The point was that these things happen in both men’s and women’s football, not just in women’s football.

C’mon Duckie, you know as well as I do that both of our keepers have gifted very soft goals to the opposition and as said, there is plenty of evidence on YouTube of male professional footballers making equally big howlers. I do agree that the standard of woman's goalkeeping does need to improve in general, but massive howlers can be replicated in men’s professional football right up to the Premier League and International stages too. I can imagine plenty of women footballers watching the 2 goals we let in against Brighton and wondering how a Premier League football team could defend so ineptly. Ings would have been proud of Salisu’s finish and Forster handed them the first on a plate.

You really do have a problem with women, sorry, “chicks” don’t you Duckie?

To be fair we have seen cock ups on a similar scale by both Forster and McCarthy.

Sadly narcissists are everywhere. If it isn’t bad enough having one as PM we have to put up with them infecting our football forums too. The last time I drank whisky it made me ill so I avoid it now.

Who gets to decide who is an idiot? Does not thinking that Broja is the next Ronaldo make you an idiot? Does being a “pinko” make you an idiot? To some apparently. As for strangers, meeting someone and interacting with them in real life is far different to responding to them on the internet. If this was a pub I’m sure most people would be far more civil to each other. Yes, there is always the person who has to take things too far, but I think there would be less personal abuse. As for forums, I guess it is all about what you want from them. I am sure places exist for those hankering after the days when you could be non PC to your hearts content. If that is what you want, go there, don’t try and turn something into something else to suit your own agenda (not you personally). I used to lurk on TUI. What a strange place that used to be. The only thing worth reading for me were the posts from Nick who seemed to have a reasonable and balanced view about the club. At one point it just became a battle ground between two posters having an ego driven ITK battle which became tiresome (unless that type of thing is what you are looking for). Fortunately a few posters were banned and although it has become quite bland now, most of the toxicity has gone and apart from a couple of anti vax conspiracy theorists spoiling a few threads, you aren’t likely to get heavy verbal abuse just for having a different opinion. Perhaps there should be an additional section after the Lounge here, the Saloon Bar, where people who want nothing more than to wind each other up and call each other cunts can spend their time and let everyone else get on with exchanging views without the bs? Pretty much every forum I have read have had trouble with WUMs and trolls. It’s a shame but it seems to be part of the human condition in some to ruin things for others under the guise of rooting out WUMs and trolls themselves when they are a source of the problem (again, not aimed at you personally).

Every forum I have ever read has been spoiled by WUMs and trolls eventually. That included a mental health support group that started out brilliantly until a few members turned on another and then it was all downhill. All of the Saints football forums I have read over the years have been spoiled by a few posters who are just there on the wind up. Not surprisingly, when these characters are removed, the forums improve. I agree with the view that transgressors should be sanctioned. I don’t think a rest period will deter the everyday WUM but limiting the number of posts each day for some might prevent the way some threads deteriorate. In the Lounge it says abuse is not tolerate but the verbal abuse towards one poster recently went way too far and amounted to bullying. Would you call a complete stranger in a pub a cunt to his face if he disagreed with you? Having been on the receiving end of a few pile ins over the years I can testify that it isn’t very pleasant. I haven’t paid my fiver because, for a fee, I expect better moderation of the board. Unfortunately the ignore function doesn’t work particularly well. You still get to see a person’s post if someone else quotes it and they are on your ignore list. I have sympathy for the mods as I know it must be difficult to keep an eye on every thread all of the time, but this forum gets ruined by the amount of personal abuse that gets thrown around and something needs to be done. It doesn’t help that previously banned members just rejoin under a different name. If you are going to charge for a forum then you need to provide a better service than all of the other free forums. In an ideal world people would self moderate and walk away from a thread when it started to get unpleasant. Unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world and the people who just follow others round deliberately looking for a wind up need to be dealt with.

Welcome to football forums. Sadly it is the same everywhere. Normal, decent posters are drowned out by attention seeking WUMs and trolls.

They may have different personalities, but both are/were alcoholics. Best to the extent that he carried on drinking after having a liver transplant. If Gazza doesn’t stop it will kill him too.

The whole cabinet is a collection of big tits! Boom boom!

Whilst I don’t want to seem to be putting words into MLGs mouth, to be fair to him I don’t think that his posts have anything to do with the sad death of Ronaldo’s baby other than he has picked up on an aspect of a post about it. It seems to me he has focussed on religious beliefs rather than the tragic incident itself and to use that as an excuse to hurl verbal abuse at someone is also very unsavoury. Yes, he could have come across more sympathetically, but we all know MLG and we know his writing style. I don’t think for one moment he was deliberately being callous, just focussed on his point. Having come very close to losing my first daughter during childbirth I know just what it feels like. If for one minute I thought that MLG was taking a pop at child mortality I would be the first one to say something.

I’ll speak up for you MLG. Most of the people I know don’t believe in God or Jesus but they will wish others a Happy Christmas, send greeting cards, eat Turkey on 25th December, exchange gifts, wish others a Happy Easter and eat chocolate eggs. We go to carol concerts in December because we like Christmas carols and it is part of the seasonal tradition. Nothing to do with believing in the birth of the son of God. I have often share a pint of Guinness with friends on St Patrick’s Day yet none of us are Irish. The people in my local Indian wish me a Happy Christmas in December but are Muslims. It is tradition and it is what most of us do with little thought for all that goes behind it. It has absolutely nothing to do with being a liar or a hypocrite. To pretend it does is just the usual, tiresome wummery. There is no point engaging with a seasoned WUM though MLG. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. I can see why you started this up initially but you must know that the previous posts were just designed to wind you up and really not worth replying to. Nothing gives a WUM greater pleasure than to get a bite but perhaps getting a second bite from the same bait tops it. You have been on here long enough to know how it works. There are some people who love to stir it and will poke away just to get a reaction, and if they can instigate a pile on, their job is done. You will never win. They are not interested in reasoned argument, just the wind up and you are an easy target because you bite every time.

Because it is the right thing to do and they know he isn’t going anywhere but by staying put he is probably going to lose his party more votes so it makes sense to keep chipping away at him but hope that he either doesn’t resign or get kicked out.

Listen to yourself man. I called for overseas clearing stations. This is not a clearing station. Once you get to Rwanda you stay there. If they wanted to seek asylum in Rwanda don’t you think that they would go there in the first place? You know exactly what is going on but just like the people you vote for you argue something completely different to muddy the waters. Just in case you really are that dense, the purpose of overseas clearing stations are to process the claims of seeking asylum in this country to prevent them having to come here to claim asylum. If their applications are successful they would be allowed to come here and settle. With this scheme we send them all the way to Africa where their claims are processed and if successful they get to stay in Rwanda. Not the UK. Rwanda. Go find a post from me that says asylum seekers to the UK need to be settled in Africa if their applications are successful. You are either brain addled by too much weed or you are deliberately on the wind up. You are sounding and behaving more and more like my stalker on here, not a good look Duckie 😘 Enjoy your Easter. At least you get to spend it where you choose to, not a country thousands of miles away at Priti Patel’s discretion.

Surely the point is to make the situation more efficient and better for all (not just the migrants, for the administrators too). Sending them thousands of miles to a country with a poor record of human rights and leaving them there when they are applying to come here might appeal to the likes of Johnson, Patel, their cronies and the right wing xenophobes (feel free to include yourself in this list Duckie) but the point is to make things better for migrants, not worse. Clearly the plan is to make things even harder for migrants so as to deter them from wanting to come here in the first place. As I said before, it plays well with the gammons but, unsurprisingly, anyone with a shred of common decency is calling it out for what it is. My posts have been about making it easier for migrants to apply for asylum here, not Rwanda. I am not sure how that is a reversal of my position? With you level of understanding perhaps you are seeking a job with Priti Patel?

How many thousand miles is Rwanda away? Not only that, there is no coming back here if your application is successful. You stay there in a country with an appalling human rights record. If we can set something up there why can’t we do so closer to home, like Calais? We used to send people we didn’t want here to Australia and before that, the Americas. Now, in the 21st century we are doing it again, only to Africa. Still, it will play well with you gammons.